TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress

SHerr · 29 Jan 2019

Looks like a full set is running to Scarborough again this morning - went past Haxby crossing whilst I was on the bus although couldn’t actually see it! Certainly there on RTT.

However I can’t see a path on way back (with trailing load to MID) although 2 paths through the day in very close proximity. One says ‘Diesel loco - 75mph’ and the other Diesel light loco - 60mph’.

Are these both the standard cl 68 training run or is one the mk5 set? These are both different again to the FLHH paths mentioned. Looks like a busy day for the signallers on the route!

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Goldie · 29 Jan 2019

Thanks for the awesome photos SP Man. It is good to see the new stock in Scarbs, even if I cant get on it just yet!

Ben Bow · 29 Jan 2019

SHerr said:
Looks like a full set is running to Scarborough again this morning - went past Haxby crossing whilst I was on the bus although couldn’t actually see it! Certainly there on RTT.

However I can’t see a path on way back (with trailing load to MID) although 2 paths through the day in very close proximity. One says ‘Diesel loco - 75mph’ and the other Diesel light loco - 60mph’.

Are these both the standard cl 68 training run or is one the mk5 set? These are both different again to the FLHH paths mentioned. Looks like a busy day for the signallers on the route!

0P68 suggests it is a light engine. Both the driver training locos were in York this morning (023 & 027), an educated guess says that 027, which was based at the Scarborough end has a fault of some sort and has been replaced

sjpowermac · 29 Jan 2019

Ben Bow said:
0P68 suggests it is a light engine. Both the driver training locos were in York this morning (023 & 027), an educated guess says that 027, which was based at the Scarborough end has a fault of some sort and has been replaced

68027 worked 0B80 Scarborough to York on Sunday morning and then the rest of the diagram was CAPED, so that does fit in with what you say.

SHerr · 29 Jan 2019

sjpowermac said:
68027 worked 0B80 Scarborough to York on Sunday morning and then the rest of the diagram was CAPED, so that does fit in with what you say.

Thanks, yes now looks like Light Engine but as it originated from Lonsight I thought it was the full set. This morning I think RTT said trailing load but has now changed to Diesel loco.

bengley · 29 Jan 2019

Domh245 said:
I'm impressed by the fact that the window is hinged! Do the 68s have a similar arrangement?

68s have a more standard vertical sliding window.

68011 · 29 Jan 2019

Ben Bow said:
0P68 suggests it is a light engine. Both the driver training locos were in York this morning (023 & 027), an educated guess says that 027, which was based at the Scarborough end has a fault of some sort and has been replaced

reported to be wheelflats

Jonny · 29 Jan 2019

Ben Bow said:
0P68 suggests it is a light engine. Both the driver training locos were in York this morning (023 & 027), an educated guess says that 027, which was based at the Scarborough end has a fault of some sort and has been replaced

SHerr said:
Thanks, yes now looks like Light Engine but as it originated from Lonsight I thought it was the full set. This morning I think RTT said trailing load but has now changed to Diesel loco.

http://archive.fo/PR3wB (backup from http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...000-2359?stp=WVS&show=non-passenger&order=wtt ) suggests that there was some light loco activity but no coaching stock.

Strathclyder · 29 Jan 2019

A tad off-topic, but 68030 Black Douglas is presently engaged in route-learning duties between Carlisle & Glasgow Central light engine. Preston depot learning the cross-border Glasgow route, from what I can gather (confirmation/corrections welcome). These duties are being carried out from the 28th to the 31st January, with four runs (two southbound and two northbound) on each of those days. I ventured south to Motherwell on the 28th (Monday) catch the first southbound run (0M87); the end result is linked here.

driver9000 · 30 Jan 2019

Strathclyder said:
A tad off-topic, but 68030 Black Douglas is presently engaged in route-learning duties between Carlisle & Glasgow Central light engine. Preston depot learning the cross-border Glasgow route, from what I can gather (confirmation/corrections welcome). These duties are being carried out from the 28th to the 31st January, with four runs (two southbound and two northbound) on each of those days. I ventured south to Motherwell on the 28th (Monday) catch the first southbound run (0M87); the end result is linked here.

Correct although Preston Drivers already know Carlisle to Carstairs as they work to Edinburgh.

sjpowermac · 30 Jan 2019

A busy day for driver training on the York to Scarborough line with 68031 working off Scarborough and 68023 working off York. Incidentally, 66413 was also out on the line on route learning.

The picture shows 68023 arriving in York as 0B67 the 15:20 Scarborough to York of 30.01.2019

krus_aragon · 30 Jan 2019

That's a wonderfully atmospheric picture, very nice.

sjpowermac · 30 Jan 2019

krus_aragon said:
That's a wonderfully atmospheric picture, very nice.

Many thanks, Im delighted that you like it. The loco sounded great too!

Jonny · 30 Jan 2019

I noticed this http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85006/2019/01/30/advanced
It seems to be coming back from a round trip via Carlisle and Warrington. It seems to be at least the second now; a couple of weeks of that and at least one set should hit its fault-free target. I think that CAF want to get them delivered so that they can get paid.

Ben Bow · 31 Jan 2019

I see there has been a Longsight-Crewe-Liverpool-Crewe-Longsight run tonight:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K56177/2019/01/30/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97183/2019/01/30/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K13215/2019/01/31/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K51651/2019/01/31/advanced

johnpeter3 · 31 Jan 2019

There's a TPE 68 (019 I think) on the same line at Crewe as most of the Pretendolino carriages, parked about a foot away - will these be used for haulage training?

EE Andy b1 · 1 Feb 2019

There's a complete Mk5a set in the yard at the old Alcan Aluminium plant at Holyhead, North Wales today, I presume a newly delivered and stored set as this place was rumoured to be used for storage.

CORRECTED:-
Sorry after a second pass it's a TPE Class 397 at Alcan Holyhead today.

mikemcniven · 1 Feb 2019

A set is currently in movement from MID to Crewe South Yard, apparently 68032 with 11504 (set 4)

Ben Bow · 1 Feb 2019

SP Man said:
Always going to turn back today, should be Carlisle Bletchley rest of the week.

Southbound run from Carlisle caped at Crewe today.

sjpowermac · 2 Feb 2019

More MID to Scarborough fun for Monday 4th and Tuesday 5th Feb, a rather more sociable evening run this time:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97538/2019/02/05/advanced

and return

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97539/2019/02/05/advanced

RTT says ‘100mph DMU’ but it looks like a Freightliner worked run.

driver9000 · 2 Feb 2019

EE Andy b1 said:
There's a complete Mk5a set in the yard at the old Alcan Aluminium plant at Holyhead, North Wales today, I presume a newly delivered and stored set as this place was rumoured to be used for storage.

CORRECTED:-
Sorry after a second pass it's a TPE Class 397 at Alcan Holyhead today.

397001 from the Velim test centre. ROG are hauling it to MID on Tuesday morning where its due to arrive around 14:20.

sjpowermac · 2 Feb 2019

68023 out on driver training today. Seen here at a snowy York with 0B67 the 1000 York to Scarborough.

Viscount702 · 2 Feb 2019

sjpowermac said:
More MID to Scarborough fun for Monday 4th and Tuesday 5th Feb, a rather more sociable evening run this time:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97538/2019/02/05/advanced

and return

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97539/2019/02/05/advanced

RTT says ‘100mph DMU’ but it looks like a Freightliner worked run.

Looks to be returning via Rochdale

Ih8earlies · 2 Feb 2019

It seems to be booked standing time at a number of TPE calling points.

Are they testing the ASDO by any chance?

Fez14 · 3 Feb 2019

Can’t understand the point in running testing on a line that it won’t run on daily when in service, for example running from Crewe or Rochdale for example

john.aston.96 · 3 Feb 2019

Rochdale will be regular enough I’d suspect due to section 5s & 7s on the Diggle route id suspect.

LNW-GW Joint · 3 Feb 2019

Fez14 said:
Can’t understand the point in running testing on a line that it won’t run on daily when in service, for example running from Crewe or Rochdale for example

The Nova 2/3 trains are based at Manchester Longsight.
Crewe-Carlisle/Bletchley is a commissioning route for mileage accumulation, with the capacity to take the extra trains.
(WCML routes have also been used for commissioning new trains like the class 387 and 345 recently).
Rochdale is on just one (Calder Valley) of several diversion routes for use during engineering works/disruption on the main TPE routes.
All the new TPE and Northern stock will use these routes and others during the testing/training phase.
And before acceptance, the trains belong to CAF and are following their test/commissioning regime.

Jonny · 3 Feb 2019

Viscount702 said:
Looks to be returning via Rochdale

john.aston.96 said:
Rochdale will be regular enough I’d suspect due to section 5s & 7s on the Diggle route id suspect.

There seem to be a lot of rail replacement busses on at Huddersfield at about the time that it is due to pass through on its return leg - http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/HUD/2019/02/06/0000-0500?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

It's getting one of its diversionary routes at an early stage.

sjpowermac · 3 Feb 2019

The Monday 4th February MID-Scarborough now showing as ‘runs as required’ on RTT.

The Tuesday working is as before.

Fingers crossed!

_toommm_ · 3 Feb 2019

Fez14 said:
Can’t understand the point in running testing on a line that it won’t run on daily when in service, for example running from Crewe or Rochdale for example

This is one example of why they're testing via Rochdale:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y80733/2019/02/04/advanced

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