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TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress
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Andrew Nelson
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The 68s on the Cumbrian coastal services certainly had superb acceleration for the few hundred yards south from Carlisle.
TT-ONR-NRN
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That’s interesting, I thought the new TPE trains would have 1.5 coaches first like GWR IETs. Fair enough.
sjpowermac
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It would be interesting to know the progress of the Nova 3 testing, fingers crossed. In the meantime, here’s 68027 stood on York PSD this evening. There’s an 0M68 10:03 York to Longsight booked for Monday:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/N06898/2019/02/18/advanced
Is it normal to leave the light on in the cooler room, or is that a testing thing?
sjpowermac
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Not seen the light on in the cooler room previously, on this occasion there was a driver with the locomotive, the light went out just after I took this.
sjpowermac
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68023 and 68031 out on driver training trips York Scarborough today. Reflection Pic of 68031 here:
https://flic.kr/p/2dF4N1G
And showing the pedestrian bridge removed in the pic below.
https://flic.kr/p/2dF4N1G
And showing the pedestrian bridge removed in the pic below.
bengley
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The lights stay on for 20 minutes after you turn them on and cannot be turned off manually
sjpowermac
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For Tuesday of this week there are trips in for over the Pennines:
06:11 Scarborough-MID
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97162/2019/02/19/advanced
17:44 MID-Scarborough
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97160/2019/02/19/advanced
68022 ‘Resolution’ arrived in York this morning light engine from Manchester, pic below of it crossing the Ouse at York.
For anyone on Flickr, TPE 68 featured at the top of Explore today:-0
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Any hints of when a 68/mark 5A pairing will be seen running to Middlesbrough? Or is it a case of only when they enter service?
I suspect there will be to practice the stopping points amongst other things, but I can only guess that finding paths up the ECML is a tricky thing.
61653 HTAFC
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Paths on both the ECML and through the core are at a premium, hence the overnight runs.
EDIT - I think these are paths to swap 68031 (currently based at Scarborough for driver training) with another one.
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Any news on what the issues at Greenfield were?
I think that would have caused outrage regarding capacity for standard passengers. A double 185 is generally seen as having too much 1st class and that's probably equivalent to 1 coach worth.
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I was just going on the paths being FL operated and timed for diesel loco +245 tonnes...but I’m not 100% and the morning run is now ‘runs as required’.
68022 worked Manchester to York light engine Sunday 17.02.2019 and has been out this afternoon to Scarborough and back.
There was a York to Manchester light engine today, which I assume was 68023.
It’s a fair few years since it was possible to say ‘Achilles’ was replaced by ‘Resolution’:-0
Anyhow, here’s a pic of ‘Achilles’ passing Bootham on Saturday:
Suraggu
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There are FL operated paths between York and Scarborough for possession work.
Only FL operated TPE moves are mileage accumiliation runs for CAF Mk.5 stock.
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My thinking is that it's mean to be a run out to Scarborough tomorrow then returning the following day, but it's been published for the wrong date. I couldn be wrong, but it certainly wouldn't be the first time it's happened. The UIDs suggest the one to Scarborough should run first too.
Does it have to break down to count as a fault or do lesser circumstances count as faults?
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A video of the TPE 68 and Mk5 set No.9 at Carlisle!
Suraggu
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Lesser circumstances.
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Well a 185 has 15 first class seats (so 2x185 equals 30 seats) and the new trains have 30 first class seats, so...
Ah good point, so 1.5 coaches would be 90 seats.
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I wonder where the problems have been/are with the Mk5a stock? I’m certainly not an engineer but I’d guess the most complex part of the Nova 3 is the Class 68 and that’s already a design with thousands of miles in passenger service. I know there’s the Driving Trailer but the time taken to get a rake of coaches certified starts to look a bit excessive.
Of course, no disrespect to anyone involved in the testing process, there quite probably are factors at play that enthusiasts are not aware of.
sprinterguy
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I think your maths is out: If 30 seats is a coach worth, then 1.5 coaches would be 45 seats.
Given that the vast majority Transpennine services are running around with just 15 first class seats at present they really don't need more than 1 coach worth when the paucity of standard class seating is the first thing that the longer trains should address.
Suraggu
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When a fault is found on the Mk.5A stock the mileage counter is reset. They need at least 2000 miles per set minimum of fault free running to be accepted into service.
LNW-GW Joint
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There won't be more than the odd one or two TPE 802s for several months, conducting tests/training.
Meanwhile there are already something like 9 Nova 3 sets at Longsight.
The only advantage the 802s have is that the maintenance side is already up and running at Doncaster.
There are still problems to be fixed in the 80x fleet which are preventing rollout on LNER.
samuelmorris
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I suspect if the 802s weren't themselves delayed, that could well have happened. As both fleets are delayed, however, I think the status quo will be maintained, just later than planned.
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