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Class455
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ROG are due to lease two 319's, convert them into 769's and use them for postal services. I wonder if these will use the non-PRM compliant 319's since the modified ones can find new homes elsewhere without requiring too much work?
The non PRM compliant ones still in storage and not being taken up are:
319004
319010
319011
319451
319453
319455
The non PRM compliant ones still in storage and not being taken up are:
319004
319010
319011
319451
319453
319455
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I'm assuming these will be the non-PRM compliant ones. The new Flex parcels trains will be delivered to ROG in early 2020..
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They're saying they hope to have them in operation by Christmas this year
Where? Both the ROG and Porterbrook press releases state 2020.
Class455
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A DTSO from 319443 has emerged at Brush Loughborough. Could this be the first unit to be converted for GWR?
https://flic.kr/p/2dwBc33
https://flic.kr/p/2dwBc33
59CosG95
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Yes - 319443 is one of the 319s earmarked for GWR. When done, it'll be renumbered 769943 - the "/9" signifying its tri-mode (AC/DC/Diesel) designation.
We had a brief at work today saying that the 319 fleet will be 15 units at LNR in time for the new timetable to release further 350s on Southern WCML workings. I've lost track of how many are currently allocated but pretty sure it's not as many as that.
Looking at the lists ( this is a pure guess) I wonder if the WM fleet could be 319005/013/214/215/216/217/218/219/220/372/429/433/441/457/460.
Then TfW get 421/426/444/446 which I believe uses all the Prm compliant 319s and saves TfW having 3 different subclasses
Looking at the lists ( this is a pure guess) I wonder if the WM fleet could be 319005/013/214/215/216/217/218/219/220/372/429/433/441/457/460.
Then TfW get 421/426/444/446 which I believe uses all the Prm compliant 319s and saves TfW having 3 different subclasses
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Class455
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Why would 319372 be heading to WMT? I would assume Northern are keeping this one
I thought 372 and 373 were there temporarily until the 769s arrived. If it does stay at Northern it would mean 1 more unit would need the PRM mods for either WMT or for the TfW 769s.
MatthewRead
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Are the LNR ones still to take over the Tring services if so when?
childwallblues
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As I understand it 372 has PRM mods but 373 does not.
It may be in Porterbrooks interest to make Northern a decent offer to keep 372 and 373 rather than put them back into store at Long Marston with the storage costs and ultimately scrappage fees if any.
It may be in Porterbrooks interest to make Northern a decent offer to keep 372 and 373 rather than put them back into store at Long Marston with the storage costs and ultimately scrappage fees if any.
Yes that's correct. 372 has the Mods. With the larger LNR fleet and the extra 769s now though it would seem that all of the PRM compliant 319s are spoken for so if 372 does stay with Northern an extra unit would need to be modified.
Martin222002
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I'm not 100%, but if anyone knows different then please correct me, but 319012 is currently at Wolverton being refurbished for LNWR. If that is correct then I'd say 012 would take the place of 372 with LNWR, as one I can't quite see Northern being able to free it up in time for May, & probably more importantly two, 372 lacks any first class accommodation which is present on all the other 319s LNWR have.
I'd also take a punt that The further 4 769s TfW are meant to now be getting would be 319004/009/010/011 given the ones they are known to be getting are also 319/0s, but then that would be too straightforward for the railway world.
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Saw a photo of 319219 in service. Will remove them from the list.
I wonder if 319217 will join them at LNWR. It's a shame Southern didn't take any of the 319/2's back, they could have been useful for capacity increases on Metro routes
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319437 was moved by road to Loughborough last Wednesday for conversion to a 769 for GWR.
Won't be 004/009/010/011, they're not PRM compliant.
Sounds an outlandish idea, but what do we all think of one of the non-PRM compliant 319s being put in a transport museum? I was thinking 009 because of its famous Channel Tunnel and London - Brighton runs.
If 012 goes to LNWR, along with the remaining /2s, the other four TfW ones will have to be 421/426/444/446.
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319423 and 319439 have transferred to GWR
Its now put back together and has new bogies and wheelsets. The other units that have had the samw work done have all gone to LnR soon after so presume this will follow.
Good to know, cheers for the info!
Bletchleyite
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Completely new bogies? That's some pretty heavy work for units that don't have a very long-term future.
That would have been 319214, which was there to get new bogies and wheelsets ahead of its return to service with LNWR.
Their heavy use on the WCML, much of it at speed, would indicate that demand on bogie performance would make refurbishment a higher priority than on some of their other cascaded deployments.
Cheers, thought I wasn’t cracking up, always have a quick nosey when I’m passing Steelworks Box
westcoaster
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Just seen a picture of 444 at Derby RTC, any ideas of why.