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For me it's pretty much anything in BR blue, because the livery subleties were included as part of the original design... then BR simply threw blue and yellow paint pretty much indiscriminately at them.

I know that nowadays spotters froth indiscriminately over blue livery, but if you are seriously trying to tell me that this...
Hymek_7017_Crowcombe_Heathfield.jpg


... looks as stylish as this...

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... then I seriously suggest you should have gone to Specsavers.

For me there's only one variation of BR blue that was appealing to the eye...
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(None of the above are my images)
 

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BR blue might have looked drab on locos
But never made them ugly.
If a train looks ugly,then it would be ugly
in any colour!
It was the corporate livery,and looked nice
when it was clean.
I must admit it improved with large logo and yellow cab ends and trainspotter friendly big numbers!

If we are going to turn this into ugliest trains because of their livery,then prizes go to TPE,both the WMT liveries,One Livery,
Everything that is mostly white and everything that doesn't have a yellow front!

Trains were better when everything was in the same colour.
 

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Yeah, this thread is I think about the vehicle being ugly rather than the livery. The Class 360 front end, for example, would look rubbish whatever colour you painted it. Whereas the classic HST would look good even in luminous pink.
 

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Ugly: Class 313-317, 507-508, 321, 360 (because it was meant to have an inter gangway unit but was removed last minute for visibility issues) it wasn’t supposed to look so ugly. I

Also if the 220s are so ugly, why is it the forum’s home page banner train? Change it to a 390/397.
 

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Yeah, this thread is I think about the vehicle being ugly rather than the livery. The Class 360 front end, for example, would look rubbish whatever colour you painted it. Whereas the classic HST would look good even in luminous pink.

To be fair, the Heathrow Connect ones look much better with the slight curve in the yellow/black border making the front look far less slabby and plain
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Ugly: Class 313-317, 507-508, 321, 360 (because it was meant to have an inter gangway unit but was removed last minute for visibility issues) it wasn’t supposed to look so ugly.

50x have a very American "subway train" look about them, but are also quite timeless - I actually think they look more modern than the 1980s Mk3 based DMUs and EMUs.
 

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Any diesel loco. Never seen a nice looking one, including the HST which contrary to popular opinion I consider to be hella ugly.

The 91 on the other hand is amazing!
 

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Surprised at all the hate at the 321s, I love them. They’re one of my favourite multiple unit. The slanting headlights looks so sleek 1980s.

319s and 321s both look very 1980s/early 1990s. 455s (or 150/2s) actually look newer, because the simpler gangway front isn't really tied to a particular era and is still common on brand-new stock.
 

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For me it's pretty much anything in BR blue, because the livery subleties were included as part of the original design... then BR simply threw blue and yellow paint pretty much indiscriminately at them.

I know that nowadays spotters froth indiscriminately over blue livery, but if you are seriously trying to tell me that this...
Hymek_7017_Crowcombe_Heathfield.jpg


... looks as stylish as this...

D7017%20Williton%2013-6-2010.JPG

... then I seriously suggest you should have gone to Specsavers.

For me there's only one variation of BR blue that was appealing to the eye...
meld80s.jpg


(None of the above are my images)

Whilst I agree that the Hymek undoubtedly looks better in green, and reflects the design better, and blue was plain and bland and made things look more like unattractive lumps, I'm quite nostalgic about Corporate Blue. Everything was painted in it when I was a kid, and therefore it reminds me of my early days out enjoying trains. I'm too young to remember green, and I think blue is a bit under-represented in preservation.
 

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To be fair, the Heathrow Connect ones look much better with the slight curve in the yellow/black border making the front look far less slabby and plain
360204_at_Ealing_Broadway.jpg
350's remind me of a modernised Cravens 105.
 
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Yeah, this thread is I think about the vehicle being ugly rather than the livery.
I don't think you can separate the two. Aesthetics is aesthetics, no matter what it is that makes the eye go yay or nay.
Whilst I agree that the Hymek undoubtedly looks better in green, and reflects the design better, and blue was plain and bland and made things look more like unattractive lumps, I'm quite nostalgic about Corporate Blue. Everything was painted in it when I was a kid, and therefore it reminds me of my early days out enjoying trains. I'm too young to remember green, and I think blue is a bit under-represented in preservation.
I'm obviously a similar age as you, although we differ in that I thought the blue era was ugly even then. One of the reasons I disliked it was precisely because everything was intended to look the same. Whereas I thought all the regional variations of the pre-Corporate Identity eras made the railway a much more colourful and interesting place.

Must confess I also disagree about preservation. It's people of our age who are hands-on with diesel preservation now and, while any vehicle should be painted whatever colour its owners choose, there is a creeping tide of blue and yellow inexorably covering many preserved diesels o_O8-)
 
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Any EMU with an interconnecting gangway on the front. Class 360 so much cleaner than a 380, 385 etc. 321 equally a much nicer front end design than 317s.
 

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50x have a very American "subway train" look about them, but are also quite timeless - I actually think they look more modern than the 1980s Mk3 based DMUs and EMUs.

Agreed. They're generally horrible inside, especially with the original low-back seats, but the Mk. 3 units that followed looked worse and more old-fashioned. This is especially the case with the original Class 317 window design, and the early 317/455 front end. The 321 front was a big improvement, though.
 
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