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Mitchell Hurd

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Hello there. I'm honestly not trying to ask a stupid question here but are the 18-plate 3-axle Volvo / Plaxton Panther LE's staying til at least the early 2020's?

If (or when) I make my first trip to Scotland (in this case Edinburgh) in Spring next year then I'll be very keen to ride on one. X56 routes if I've read correctly on a website.

I ask as it's rare (but can happen) I guess that 2-year-old vehicles get replaced unless they're very problematic.

From looking at the interior photos, clearly these coaches offer almost double the space of a still good normal single-decker bus with front seats, certainly way more room than an MAN E200 - I caught one, 39696, from Brackley to Bicester on Stagecoach Midlands route 8. They may be powerful things for the size but front seat legroom is poor!
 
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Mitchell Hurd said:
Hello there. I'm honestly not trying to ask a stupid question here but are the 18-plate 3-axle Volvo / Plaxton Panther LE's staying til at least the early 2020's?

If (or when) I make my first trip to Scotland (in this case Edinburgh) in Spring next year then I'll be very keen to ride on one. X56 routes if I've read correctly on a website.

I ask as it's rare (but can happen) I guess that 2-year-old vehicles get replaced unless they're very problematic.

From looking at the interior photos, clearly these coaches offer almost double the space of a still good normal single-decker bus with front seats, certainly way more room than an MAN E200 - I caught one, 39696, from Brackley to Bicester on Stagecoach Midlands route 8. They may be powerful things for the size but front seat legroom is poor!
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This was in around August 2011 - 39696 was better than the S-reg MAN (former Oxford 22920) I had!
 
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Mitchell Hurd said:
Hello there. I'm honestly not trying to ask a stupid question here but are the 18-plate 3-axle Volvo / Plaxton Panther LE's staying til at least the early 2020's?

If (or when) I make my first trip to Scotland (in this case Edinburgh) in Spring next year then I'll be very keen to ride on one. X56 routes if I've read correctly on a website.

I ask as it's rare (but can happen) I guess that 2-year-old vehicles get replaced unless they're very problematic.

From looking at the interior photos, clearly these coaches offer almost double the space of a still good normal single-decker bus with front seats, certainly way more room than an MAN E200 - I caught one, 39696, from Brackley to Bicester on Stagecoach Midlands route 8. They may be powerful things for the size but front seat legroom is poor!
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I don't think they're having any issues with the Panther LE's, however i wouldn't be surprised if they get replaced earlier (at around 7 to 10 years old) as they're not that viable to run, their size and really poor capacity limit what they can do. You're pretty much getting the capacity of a small cheap to run Plaxton Profile with the running costs of a large 15 Metre coach so it's not hard to see where cost issues could arise.
 
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Mitchell Hurd said:
Hello there. I'm honestly not trying to ask a stupid question here but are the 18-plate 3-axle Volvo / Plaxton Panther LE's staying til at least the early 2020's?

If (or when) I make my first trip to Scotland (in this case Edinburgh) in Spring next year then I'll be very keen to ride on one. X56 routes if I've read correctly on a website.

I ask as it's rare (but can happen) I guess that 2-year-old vehicles get replaced unless they're very problematic.
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Its possible it was draft Q ;0) It is extremely unlikely these B8 will leave the area, the last Tri-axle batch stay for 10 years. There is a rumor saying another six are coming for the X54. Remember there is also the X51.

There is 15th coach built and has been sent to other companies for testing https://www.alexander-dennis.com/me...ouble-deck-panorama-and-low-entry-panther-le/ It might appaer near you.
 
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Ah - I say the X56 as I'll probably catch that to and from Edinburgh and Perth. I only want to visit Perth as that is where Stagecoach Group was born I believe :) .

My local Stagecoach operator is in Oxfordshire.
 
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Buy a East Scotland Dayrider and travel the whole East Scotland area, plus it cheaper overall.
 
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27906 and 27912 transferred to Perth today.

29013 and 29017 are due to move from Perth to Aberdeen tomorrow.
 
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Fares revision on Sunday 31st March, along with some changes to megarider zones

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/servi...rticle?SituationId=ID-07/03/2019-16:15:48:844

Fares and Ticket Zone Revision from Sunday 31 March Across Fife, Perth & Kinross, Dundee & Angus07 Mar 2019 to 21 Apr 2019


From Sunday 31 March, a fares and ticket zone revision will take place across Fife, Perthshire, Dundee and Angus.

Single, return, dayrider and megarider fares will be revised.

All student/U19 tickets, the nightrider ticket (£3) and the Edinburgh 12 journey ticket (£35) will remain at current prices.



Zone Changes

  • The North East Fife ticket zone will be expanded to cover Glenrothes, Leven and services into Dundee City Centre
  • The Fife+ zone will be expanded to cover services into Perth
  • The Perth zones will be revised into two simple zones: Perth and Perth+
 
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This is what I don't get with Stagecoach. They include Dunkeld within the current Zone 3 Megarider, yet Crieff is included in the Tayside Megarider.

Not only has Crieff got a more frequent service to and from Perth, journey times and mileage are almost exactly the same. Services to and from Dunkeld have a less frequency.

So passengers travelling between Crieff and Perth have to pay an extra £56.40 from what I can make out, for absolutely nothing.
 
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GaryMcEwan said:
This is what I don't get with Stagecoach. They include Dunkeld within the current Zone 3 Megarider, yet Crieff is included in the Tayside Megarider.

Not only has Crieff got a more frequent service to and from Perth, journey times and mileage are almost exactly the same. Services to and from Dunkeld have a less frequency.

So passengers travelling between Crieff and Perth have to pay an extra £56.40 from what I can make out, for absolutely nothing.
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That anomaly dates back to the days of Bankfoot Buses running at silly fares between Perth and Dunkeld.
 
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GaryMcEwan said:
Well it's an anomaly that needs to be sorted out quickly. Folk are paying extra money for nothing.
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It’s really the other way round. Crieff-Perth passengers are paying the ‘going rate’ for the distance involved, but those doing Dunkeld-Perth are paying much less than the ‘going rate’. Therefore some folk aren’t paying enough for something, ...but as it’s a much smaller number of people involved, the company can probably live with it, ...and I think it’s still a PKC supported service too!
 
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Stan Drews said:
It’s really the other way round. Crieff-Perth passengers are paying the ‘going rate’ for the distance involved, but those doing Dunkeld-Perth are paying much less than the ‘going rate’. Therefore some folk aren’t paying enough for something, ...but as it’s a much smaller number of people involved, the company can probably live with it, ...and I think it’s still a PKC supported service too!
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The Crieff-Perth route is also supported by PKC which is odd as Stagecoach could run it themselves.
 
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Any truth in the rumour that Stagecoach are getting the 64 back?
 
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Why would that happen? Can m&w not coupe? There is also a rumor aberhill getting 8 b9 coaches from somewhere in the stagecoach empire.
 
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Why would that happen? Can m&w not coupe? There is also a rumor aberhill getting 8 b9 coaches from somewhere in the stagecoach empire.
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Not running to time, a lot of North East folk moaning because it doesn't go into the bus station. Also hearing rumours about the 34 coming back, replacing the x37 to the retail park and on to Lochgelly/Ballingry, presumably replacing one of the 33s, freeing up a Dunfermline driver (they are still struggling for numbers) and 53/x53/x42 or whatever they call it this time although Stagecoach still deny that one on social media.
 
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overthewater said:
Why would that happen? Can m&w not coupe? There is also a rumor aberhill getting 8 b9 coaches from somewhere in the stagecoach empire.
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Yeah, I'm pretty certain that's true, but where from I'm not sure...
 
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