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GMWDA to Runcorn incinerator... what comes next?

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Hello all,

https://www.mrw.co.uk/latest/suez-lands-manchester-waste-deal/10040286.article
Suez has won the lengthy competition to deliver waste services to Greater Manchester, 18 months after Viridor Laing’s PFI deal was terminated.

Viridor will deliver waste services in Manchester until the end of May. The company took itself out of the running for the replacement contract.

A spokesperson said: ”Viridor took the decision to withdraw from the Greater Manchester waste procurement process…for commercial reasons and to focus on other market opportunities.
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As above Viridor have walked away from the waste contract for Greater Manchester and Suez have become the preferred bidder for at least the next seven years. Viridor still retain the feedstock of refuse derived fuel to the Runcorn Energy from waste site.

I wonder if the waste packers which Freightliner Heavy Haul take between Runcorn and Manchester may get a new lick of paint? Maybe we will see a class 66 with Suez incorporated into its name?

There is the Viridor Express and Biffa have The Flying Dustman (awesome name that one) not sure if there are any more out there which are named with a waste management theme?

Sadly alas I suspect things will look the same to the untrained eye....
 
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Let's just hope they're up to it, so were not left with a Suez crisis. (gets hat, leaves room)
 
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The Runcorn plant has far more rail capacity than is currently used. The plant operator originally promised this capacity would be used in the original planning permission, but applied for a variation in that permission to use road instead, when they were unable to secure rail traffic.

I have no idea what distance this alternative road traffic covers to reach the plant, or how much effort was put into trying to put this traffic on rail.
 
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furnessvale said:
The Runcorn plant has far more rail capacity than is currently used. The plant operator originally promised this capacity would be used in the original planning permission, but applied for a variation in that permission to use road instead, when they were unable to secure rail traffic.

I have no idea what distance this alternative road traffic covers to reach the plant, or how much effort was put into trying to put this traffic on rail.
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As far as I know it is just the waste from Greater Manchester waste disposal aithority which feeds this site, maybe they were hoping to secure more contracts and bring in RDF (refuse derived fuel) from other areas or looking further ahead than the 25 year deal they may need to accept waste from lots of locations?
I know the EFW (energy from waste) site which viridor run at Dunbar was looking at a rail solution when it first opened but if that happened or not I am not sure.
It is quite refreshing to see a much greener approach to waste management, energy production and logistics I personally hope the country sees more EFW centres being fed by rail over the coming decades.
 
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If you read the article,the EFW facility at Runcorn will continue to be operated by Viridor, whether the rail haulage is part of that contract, I don’t know.
 
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Nic nic said:
As far as I know it is just the waste from Greater Manchester waste disposal aithority which feeds this site, maybe they were hoping to secure more contracts and bring in RDF (refuse derived fuel) from other areas or looking further ahead than the 25 year deal they may need to accept waste from lots of locations?
I know the EFW (energy from waste) site which viridor run at Dunbar was looking at a rail solution when it first opened but if that happened or not I am not sure.
It is quite refreshing to see a much greener approach to waste management, energy production and logistics I personally hope the country sees more EFW centres being fed by rail over the coming decades.
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A while ago there were a few trains from the Manchester terminals to Dunbar conveying waste, I think Runcorn was having teething troubles at the time.
 
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If you read the article,the EFW facility at Runcorn will continue to be operated by Viridor, whether the rail haulage is part of that contract, I don’t know.
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Rail haulage was part of the planning permission for the site. Whether the later change in permission will affect that I do not know.
 
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I'm all for green credentials for rail transport but I find it a bit odd that Greater Manchester's bin liners go to Runcorn( in Merseyside?) and Merseyside's bin liners go all the way from Knowsley to Teeside. Why can't Mersey rubbish do the short, efficient,hop to Runcorn? On the line near here, loaded bins go both ways at different times of the day. I know it's competitive tendering and good for rail freight, but slightly comical, don't you think?
 
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billh said:
Why can't Mersey rubbish do the short, efficient,hop to Runcorn?
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local authorities that chose not to or for some reason haven’t yet been able to develop their own EFW capacity will have needed to take advantage of what alternatives to landfill the market can currently offer them
 
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Carlisle said:
local authorities that chose not to or for some reason haven’t yet been able to develop their own EFW capacity will have needed to take advantage of what alternatives to landfill the market can currently offer them
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Merseyside waste goes by rail from Knowsley to the Wilton Energy from Waste plant on Teeside. Presumably that plant offered a more attractive deal than the Runcorn EfW plant used by Greater Manchester, even after allowing for the transport costs.
 
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