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The Eurotunnel Car Shuttles Need Refurbishment Or Replacement

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anamyd

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Anyone here watched this...? https://www.my5.tv/building-the-channel-tunnel-25-years-on/season-1/episode-1-2-2-2-2-3 not strictly to topic but wanted to make sure people knew about it!
Building the Channel Tunnel: 25 years on

The men and women who built this engineering marvel recall what is was like to work in such a challenging environment and the hurdles that the project faced.
It's a Channel 5 TV programme which includes some footage of the Eurotunnel car shuttles being constructed.
 
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Agreed they are getting tired, with their passenger info screens straight out of a Class 158 (they were built roughly the same time). However they still knock spots off the ferry for journey time, and, I don’t get sick on them which is a particular bonus for me.

Isn't Eurotunnel a time range in a similar fashion? An hour or so before, or after, the booked time. Anyone coming by road is going to struggle to arrive at the exact time, and I don't think Eurotunnel want that either. They've got ample room for people to queue up, or choose to go in to the terminal building and pay inflated prices for food.

When you book it is for a specific train, however this is only really a guide. They will often step you up if you are early, or step you back if you are late, the specific train allocation is made when you check in. Even then you can be stepped up or back post check in by the loading team depending when you present yourself to the loading queue (after border controls). Indeed on my last few trips I have never had to wait more than about 15 minutes in the queuing area, and about every third time I’ve driven straight on (usually after about 2100).

Quite a regular thing to happen is that the timetable changes between booking and the day of the race; when this happens you are allocated the next available departure. I went through in the middle of the immigration issues in summer 2015 when the tunnel was shut for a day, but reopened in the evening. When I checked in, around 1900, the backlog was such that I was allocated a departure at around 0200. However Eurotunnel left some extra circuits running, and I was on the way by 2045.
 

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So interestingly this is actually happening
Nine Eurotunnel passenger shuttle trains to get re-vamp with Bombardier Transportation

New computer generated images out today show how nine Eurotunnel shuttles for passengers to the continent could look when they receive a full makeover.

The 800-meter long trains will be renovated as part of the company's '2018-2026 mid-life programme', after bosses signed a contract with Bombardier Transportation to renovate the “PAX” shuttles.

The seven year contract is valued at €150 million, and deliveries of the refurbished locos will start in mid-2022 and continue until mid-2026.

The new CGIs show a crisp and bright lighting design for the passenger trains, which have each travelled an average of 300 round trips per month in their 25-years in service since the opening of the Channel Tunnel.

More than 236 million passengers have travelled between France and Folkestone in Kent during the 35-minute Channel crossing, in which they remain in their vehicles.


How the Eurotunnel passenger shuttles currently look

Teams from Bombardier France and Belgium originally designed and built the vehicles in the 1990s and launched Bombardier’s activities in France.

This year, the company celebrates 30 years since its establishment at the Crespin facility in the Hauts-de-France Region.

Laurent Bouyer, President of Bombardier Transportation France, said: "This project, the largest in Europe in terms of scope and ambition, marks a milestone in the development of our refurbishment activities and places Bombardier as the leader of this market in France.

"As well as their own know-how, our French teams will be able to tap into the overall engineering expertise and processes across the Bombardier group to make a success of this unique project.”

François Gauthey, deputy chief executive officer of the Getlink group which Eurotunnel is a part of, said: "We are celebrating 25 years of operation of these unique Shuttles that were built 30 years ago.

"This strategic investment, our most important in 25 years, allows Eurotunnel to maintain the highest level of quality service and to affirm trust in its long-term perspectives."

Bombardier will be responsible for the renovation of 26 wagons on each of the nine shuttles.

This includes 12 single-deck carriages for coaches, minibuses, caravans and vehicles over 1.85 meters high, 12 double-deck carriages for cars and motorcycles, and two double-deck loader wagons, in addition to two spare loader wagons.

As project technical advisor, Bombardier will lead the integration and renovation operations, except for the single-deck loaders, and will lead on engineering design and procurement for onboard equipment.

Eurotunnel will undertake design and procurement of key equipment such as brakes, doors, fire doors, fire detection, HVAC and the double-deck loaders and sort the final processing of the renovated shuttles with authorities, while Bombardier will provide technical support to prepare required documentation.
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Images courtesy of Kent Online
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkes...ers-shuttles-could-look-once-revamped-201098/
 

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About time this happened! Would be better however if there was a passenger lounge and/or Wi-Fi throughout the train. Wonder where the work will be carried out, Chart Leacon?
 

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Wonder where the work will be carried out, Chart Leacon?
Have a read, they'll all be heading to Bombardier in France and Belgium to be refurbed, they physically cannot run anywhere beyond the Channel tunnel loop at Cheriton because of their heights, guage and sheer weight
 

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And even if you could, the food wouldn't be very good: there used to be a trolley service, and, well...

I’ve never seen a trolley service on the passenger shuttles, and I was on them very shortly after it opened. Maybe there was on the lorry shuttle club car?

The food in the passenger shuttle premier lounge is actually pretty good.
 

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I’ve never heard of the car shuttles having a trolley either and that’s just the sort of oddity I love. How did they get it up the stairs?
 

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I’ve never heard of the car shuttles having a trolley either and that’s just the sort of oddity I love. How did they get it up the stairs?
Or past the wing mirrors on the sections where the stairs / toilets are? Recipe for disaster!
 

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In the early days of the Eurotunnel shuttle, one was offered a cup of coffee by a wandering attendant with a backpack.

Tried it once, didn't bother next time and the service disappeared pretty quickly.
 

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I've only ever used the Shuttle towing a caravan (prepares for incoming!), which means you get put in the carriages that take coaches, mini-buses and campervans etc. Plenty of space in there, so can't comment re. those that say it's cramped for cars in the double-deck wagons. Cars are generally getting bigger though.

A few years since I've used it now, but thought then that the wagons (and especially the loos) were starting to show their age.
 

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I've only ever used the Shuttle towing a caravan (prepares for incoming!), which means you get put in the carriages that take coaches, mini-buses and campervans etc. Plenty of space in there, so can't comment re. those that say it's cramped for cars in the double-deck wagons. Cars are generally getting bigger though.

A few years since I've used it now, but thought then that the wagons (and especially the loos) were starting to show their age.

I wouldn’t say it’s that cramped to be honest. Anything with a track wider than a VW Golf is likely to bump a tyre on the mini-kerbs though.
 

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No because it was loosing money hand over fist, and DFDS gave them a good offer to purchase the ships.

Take the ferry, check in is a breeze, and if you're early, they'll put you on an earlier sailing if there's space!
That’s not always necessary a good thing. The Dover Calais P&Os are a mixture of Pride fleet and Spirit fleet. Spirit ferries are larger, airier and much nicer, so if I was booked on the Spirit of France and someone tried to wave me onto cramped Pride of Canterbury, er naw I think not. At least all Eurotunnel trains are the same, though I think they’d benefit from cars parking on the bottom deck and using the top deck as a passenger lounge with seats/cafe/shop similar to the ferries!
 

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That’s not always necessary a good thing. The Dover Calais P&Os are a mixture of Pride fleet and Spirit fleet. Spirit ferries are larger, airier and much nicer, so if I was booked on the Spirit of France and someone tried to wave me onto cramped Pride of Canterbury, er naw I think not. At least all Eurotunnel trains are the same, though I think they’d benefit from cars parking on the bottom deck and using the top deck as a passenger lounge with seats/cafe/shop similar to the ferries!

Well it is if you're booked on the Pride of Burgundy for example, but end up being put on the Spirit of Britain!
Anyway the Pride of Canterbury etc aren't too bad, still preferable than the Eurotunnel
 

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At least all Eurotunnel trains are the same, though I think they’d benefit from cars parking on the bottom deck and using the top deck as a passenger lounge with seats/cafe/shop similar to the ferries!

Would you be happy with the doubling of fares to pay for it? I know I wouldn’t.
 

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In the early days of the Eurotunnel shuttle, one was offered a cup of coffee by a wandering attendant with a backpack.

Tried it once, didn't bother next time and the service disappeared pretty quickly.
I thought I was imagining that! Thanks for confirming my memory.

Incidentally there’s a great temporary exhibition in the Cheriton terminal building at the moment to mark the 25th anniversary.
 
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