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Northern Depot Drivers x 2, Blackburn

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Seishin

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Thanks. Do you have to be a qualified driver to apply? It doesn’t say in the ad so I’m assuming not. Also, do Northern allow applications on the basis you will relocate if successful.
 
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Llama

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No, you don't have to be a qualified driver to apply for a depot driver job. It would be very unusual for a qualified driver to apply for one.
 

LCC106

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Not so sure about relocating. TOCs tend to be strict on commuting distance as every person and their dog would apply if not, as well as factoring fatigue in. Also people have been known to say they’ll relocate then they don’t leading to super long commutes.
 

galaxynew

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Why do Northern never specify the salary for a job they have advertised?

To me this is really poor, i understand money should not be the only reason for applying for a job but lets face it nobody would take a job without knowing what they are getting paid
 

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I like the way they don't personally, takes the strain off HR with a 5000 applications as people sadly only focus on the money. It is something that can be asked when at interview however DD are on about 33k I believe.
 

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I like the way they don't personally, takes the strain off HR with a 5000 applications as people sadly only focus on the money. It is something that can be asked when at interview however DD are on about 33k I believe.
Disagree but respect we all have our own opinion, why should they expect someone to go through what can be a lengthy application process even to get as far as an interview and not have a clue what the salary is. Northern have jobs advertised that are pretty poorly paid (not referring to drivers of course), money is rather an important factor of a job after all and if their reason for not indicating a salary is to save workload for HR i'd suggest that is not a valid reason.

Network Rail will also get lots of applications for relatively well paid jobs (eg Signaller) but the salary is always stated, can't imagine there are many large corporate organisations that advertise jobs with no indication on salary to be paid.
 

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Not advertising a salary in roles where pay is open to negotiation based on experience and expertise etc is fair enough, but when there is a union agreed, set pay level, which (I presume) is the same for every employee in that role, it's not great practice to list everything you want from somebody but not what you are giving in return.
Although relatively well paid roles, the fact Northern are at the lower end of industry standard pay may influence their decision not to advertise that point though.
 
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galaxynew

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Not advertising a salary in roles where pay is open to negotiation based on experience and expertise etc is fair enough, but when there is a union agreed, set pay level, which (I presume) is the same for every employee in that role, it's not great practice to list everything you want from somebody but not what you are giving in return.
Although relatively well paid roles, the fact Northern are at the lower end of industry standard pay may influence their decision not to advertise that point though.
100% Agree

Not interested in the role myself but find it a very annoying policy that Northern adopt
 

Claudius

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Have applied for this, hopefully the process will be quicker than the trainee driver roles which I applied for!

One question though, is being a depot driver a step up to becoming a qualified driver or are you limited to that role?
 

Llama

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Depot driver to main line driver is possible but it isn't a clear line of progression, you would have to apply in the same way as someone working in a booking office or as a guard would do, and if you did eventually get a main line job you would do the whole driver training course from day one with everyone else. You might however have slight advantages such as some relevant traction and rules knowledge. It isn't particularly common for depot drivers to end up as main line drivers.
 

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Depot driver to main line driver is possible but it isn't a clear line of progression, you would have to apply in the same way as someone working in a booking office or as a guard would do, and if you did eventually get a main line job you would do the whole driver training course from day one with everyone else. You might however have slight advantages such as some relevant traction and rules knowledge. It isn't particularly common for depot drivers to end up as main line drivers.
I’d say it’s pribably more popular for mainline drivers to go to depot driver roles, maybe close to retirement with better shifts?

I think it’s a good route to take though if you do want to eventually go mainline. You won’t have to retake the psychometric tests et least (or shouldn’t do but I know some TOCs can be funny about this).
 

Llama

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One lad at our place had to do them when he went main line, but I am pretty sure that's only because he had been a Driver Op for years, possibly before psychometric testing was an industry norm. Pretty sure another lad who did the same move around the same time but hadn't been a DO as long didn't need the psychometric tests.
 

Dav1d

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Does anyone know the salary for this role? Since Northern vacancies get updated to deutschebahn website it doesn't show. Don't want to go through the whole recruitment process to perhaps have a drop from my current salary to which I can't afford.
 
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