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MML disruption today (22/03)

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This is what irk's me about EMT, if you live south of Leicester good luck getting home. It should be all stops to Leicester not first stop.

Line only cleared around 2, so a 4-5 hour closure.
Definitely shouldn't be all stops. There is an argument for calls at Wellingborough, Kettering and Harborough (although at least one of them may well still be closed due to the incident in this particular case) but people further south can use thameslink. The main problem I normally find with EMT is a reluctance to understand that many people travel solely north of Leicester and they are way too quick to unnecessarily cancel and retime services North of Leicester (both during incidents and engineering works).
 
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This is what irk's me about EMT, if you live south of Leicester good luck getting home. It should be all stops to Leicester not first stop.

Line only cleared around 2, so a 4-5 hour closure.

xx.31 and xx.05 both fast to Leicester only thing out of STP at the moment I think. I'm getting off at Leicester so can only view locos from a distance lol, not my thing though.
Since 1400 they have been running the xx04 Nottingham and xx31 Sheffield which means every station except East Midlands Parkway and Corby have will get 1 train per hour which is better than northing. More services are building up now with a second Sheffield being introduced northbound.
 

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Definitely shouldn't be all stops. There is an argument for calls at Wellingborough, Kettering and Harborough (although at least one of them may well still be closed due to the incident in this particular case) but people further south can use thameslink. The main problem I normally find with EMT is a reluctance to understand that many people travel solely north of Leicester and they are way too quick to unnecessarily cancel and retime services North of Leicester (both during incidents and engineering works).
Oh I didn't realise Thameslink went north of Bedford. With the major disruption a few weeks back they ran non stop London Wellingborough. Anyone south off Wellingborough had to travel on a bus to and from Bedford, which adds the best part of an hour to an already disrupted journey.
 

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Oh I didn't realise Thameslink went north of Bedford. With the major disruption a few weeks back they ran non stop London Wellingborough. Anyone south off Wellingborough had to travel on a bus to and from Bedford, which adds the best part of an hour to an already disrupted journey.
There is no station between Bedford and Wellingborough.

First stop Wellingborough is the correct call imo to avoid overcrowding, however there should be a pick-up only call at Bedford at least once an hour to maintain connections from stations further south.
 

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I complain when a predictable situation (closure of MML south of Leicester) is badly handled.

I think most of us would expect each Police force to have a contingency plan for what do when a motorway is closed at a particular junction; why shouldn't we expect a TOC to have similar well-thought-out plans for closure of the various sections of their network?

They do, you just sit there for hours on end, then maybe after 5 hours or so, they think about turning traffic around, :) the Railway does have a contingency plan for various sections of a route, but unless you kick off an 'emergency service' at the start of the day, it is never going to work out properly, due to crew and stock all in the wrong places.
 

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You will never be able to stop a person jumping in front of a train, there will always be access somewhere.
 

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Derby to London was difficult because Virgin West Coast weren't accepting tickets due to the service disruption at Milton Keynes.

Grantham station was struggling owing to a number of trains arriving there full and standing due to WCML passengers joining them at Leeds and MML at Doncaster combined with a number of pre planned cancellations due to set shortages concentrating numbers on fewer trains.

The station staff there as a result requested that passengers arriving from the west on Norwich bound services were carried forward to Peterborough.

The obvious route isn't always the best one. For example whenever the WCML is closed a large number of passengers insist on directing themselves to Derby for Stoke, Crewe and Manchester and then start kicking off when they can't all catch the 153 shuttle. My record so far with that is around 200 people left behind on the 1942 service which normally loads up to about 40 at most.
 

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I don't think it's reasonable to suggest passengers from Derby to London go all the way north to Doncaster; this was clearly a mistake.
Doncaster is a bit out the way, but as @DarloRich has said, sending everyone via Newark would just crowd that area too.

Different stations will advise different things depending on their location.
Leicester/Market Harborough may send everyone via the Nottingham/Newark route.
XC may deny access to the Stansted train because the TM has told XC Control how busy it is.

Another good one is the Rugby - Birmingham route.
Rugby, Coventry and Birmingham International should (or used to) send their passengers on different routes so as not to overcrowd one particular route, even if it seems most logical / shorter distance to go that way.

When I looked at the staff briefings for VTWC PIDD routes, it was all very well thought out.
 

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One of those days today. A couple of fatalities on busy main lines, signalling problems around Milton Keynes causing havoc and the problems at Waterloo.

Plus a person being hit by a train at Dewsbury c1030 which stopped the job on North TPE for a couple of hours. Very cosy 150 from Huddersfield to Leeds via Halifax with many people from two TPEs on board. Well handled by the TPE staff at Huddersfield.
 

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My mum was coming up from St Pancras to Sheffield. Was very impressed with the station staff. Directed her straight off to Kings Cross and came in via Donnie and was only 7 minutes later than planned. Said station staff at Donnie were good saw her looking a bit lost clocked she was diverted and made sure she hung on for a fast train and not get the slow.
 

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Since 1400 they have been running the xx04 Nottingham and xx31 Sheffield which means every station except East Midlands Parkway and Corby have will get 1 train per hour which is better than northing. More services are building up now with a second Sheffield being introduced northbound.
East Midlands Parkway is rarely a problem as it has very few passengers and in any case, can be reached by changing to an Ivanhoe service at Leicester or Loughborough. Corby is an awkward one as there simply isn't the demand to run the Corby in preference to any of the other northbound services.
 
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