St Ives Cornwall engineering work

stut · 25 Mar 2019

The biggest shame about the scheme is that it spoils my competitive advantage of parking at St Erth and getting a nice quiet train to St Ives instead of fighting the hordes at Lelant Saltings!

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Auden Hoggart · 31 Mar 2019

Are there any estimates of what the park and ride situation is likely to be at St Erth in mid-August? Will Lelant Saltings still be the best option for trains to St Ives?

Thanks!

83G/84D · 31 Mar 2019

Auden Hoggart said:
Are there any estimates of what the park and ride situation is likely to be at St Erth in mid-August? Will Lelant Saltings still be the best option for trains to St Ives?

Thanks!

The plan is that the St Erth Park and Ride will be completed by the end of May at the latest. Leland Saltings station will only be served by two trains daily once the work at St Erth is finished.

Work at St Erth looked fairly well advanced when I went that way around a week ago so I would expect a May completion date to be realistic barring any last minute snags concerning the platform work taking place.

Deafdoggie · 31 Mar 2019

Will Lelant improve its service? Or is the idea to pretty much run St Erth-Carbis Bay-St Ives only? And less stops improves the realiability, which can suffer, certainly in summer

Mathew S · 1 Apr 2019

Deafdoggie said:
Will Lelant improve its service? Or is the idea to pretty much run St Erth-Carbis Bay-St Ives only? And less stops improves the realiability, which can suffer, certainly in summer

As said earlier by @83G/84D, after the May timetable change only one service each way per day will call at Lelant Saltings.

Deafdoggie · 1 Apr 2019

Mathew S said:
As said earlier by @83G/84D, after the May timetable change only one service each way per day will call at Lelant Saltings.

Indeed, which is why I was asking about Lelant. Lelant is much more handy for the actual village, The Saltings (actually known locally as "The Muds" but for some reason "Lelant Muds" was rejected as a station name) is only handy for the new housing development.

Mathew S · 1 Apr 2019

Deafdoggie said:
Indeed, which is why I was asking about Lelant. Lelant is much more handy for the actual village, The Saltings (actually known locally as "The Muds" but for some reason "Lelant Muds" was rejected as a station name) is only handy for the new housing development.

Apologies, didn't realise there were to Lelants.
You can find details on RTT at this link
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/LEL/2019/05/20/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
It's not a full service, but more than Lelant Sayings will get.

berneyarms · 3 Apr 2019

Might be better to show the service on a day when the line has fully reopened:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/LEL/2019/06/26/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

Requeststop · 3 Apr 2019

Mathew S said:
Apologies, didn't realise there were to Lelants.
You can find details on RTT at this link
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/LEL/2019/05/20/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
It's not a full service, but more than Lelant Sayings will get.

As one from the old village of Lelant, born there just over 65 years ago, if the service from the village is re-instated even to on hourly stop in each direction without having to request a stop, the better. The platform at the Saltings should be disposed off. It's a total eyesore, always has been, and the "car park"put back the way it was as a wildlife refuge.

richw · 3 Apr 2019

Requeststop said:
car park"put back the way it was as a wildlife refuge.

Bet it’ll be more housing!

nanstallon · 3 Apr 2019

Requeststop said:
As one from the old village of Lelant, born there just over 65 years ago, if the service from the village is re-instated even to on hourly stop in each direction without having to request a stop, the better. The platform at the Saltings should be disposed off. It's a total eyesore, always has been, and the "car park"put back the way it was as a wildlife refuge.

These days they rarely close a station; just reduce the service to a nominal level. This avoids the rigmarole that is involved with a full closure. Stockport to Stalybridge has been one train a week in one direction for 20+ years!

Kite159 · 3 Apr 2019

nanstallon said:
These days they rarely close a station; just reduce the service to a nominal level. This avoids the rigmarole that is involved with a full closure. Stockport to Stalybridge has been one train a week in one direction for 20+ years!

Until May 2018 when those services doubled in frequency and shifted to a Saturday

But agreed, it is easier to reduce services to a token service to avoid having to close the station, although depends what happens with the car-park if access to the platform is removed GWR/Network rail might try to mothball the station.

Wilts Wanderer · 3 Apr 2019

The plan is for Lelant (Village) to receive basically a two-hourly service all day, rather than just early mornings and evenings. Lelant Saltings drops to a token service as stated. The big winner is Carbis Bay where all trains all day will now serve. The Park & Ride at St Erth will be a far better facility than the basic car-park and bare platform at Saltings.

Just for reference - Lelant Saltings is such a short distance from St Erth, it is adjacent to St Erth outer home signal. Lelant so close to Saltings, it is adjacent to the St Erth (fixed) distant signal. The local community will have no difficulty even if Saltings closes.

Llanigraham · 3 Apr 2019

Wilts Wanderer said:
The plan is for Lelant (Village) to receive basically a two-hourly service all day, rather than just early mornings and evenings. Lelant Saltings drops to a token service as stated. The big winner is Carbis Bay where all trains all day will now serve. The Park & Ride at St Erth will be a far better facility than the basic car-park and bare platform at Saltings.

Just for reference - Lelant Saltings is such a short distance from St Erth, it is adjacent to St Erth outer home signal. Lelant so close to Saltings, it is adjacent to the St Erth (fixed) distant signal. The local community will have no difficulty even if Saltings closes.

And the residents on the approach to the Saltings carpark are very pleased they will no longer have traffic passing their homes, blocking their access and causing many problems.

Busaholic · 4 Apr 2019

I went through St Erth last Friday, the first day when the long-awaited traffic lights at the junction of the A30 and the road to St Erth Station were operational and the pattern I expected was already happening i.e. traffic on the A30 from the Penzance direction wasn't too impeded, but the other direction was an entirely different matter, as they have to stop for two other separate traffic movements. When you ally this to buses from Lelant Saltings queueing to access the roundabout, then having to go round it and join the queue stretching from the new lights right up the Hayle Bypass, it could easily take 20 minutes, even half an hour, to complete the short journey, as it did for much of last summer when they were merely working on creating those traffic lights!

richw · 4 Apr 2019

Busaholic said:
I went through St Erth last Friday, the first day when the long-awaited traffic lights at the junction of the A30 and the road to St Erth Station were operational and the pattern I expected was already happening i.e. traffic on the A30 from the Penzance direction wasn't too impeded, but the other direction was an entirely different matter, as they have to stop for two other separate traffic movements. When you ally this to buses from Lelant Saltings queueing to access the roundabout, then having to go round it and join the queue stretching from the new lights right up the Hayle Bypass, it could easily take 20 minutes, even half an hour, to complete the short journey, as it did for much of last summer when they were merely working on creating those traffic lights!

Maybe a walking bus could be created for the physically able. It’s only across the road and probably quicker!

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