Scotrail Class 385 Discussion

EMU303 · 11 Apr 2019

With approx 55 x 385's now delivered to SR and the remainder due over the next 6 weeks or so, will that eliminate all the 314s and will it provide additional DMU capacity on other routes e.g. EK, Fife, Borders? Or does that later plan depend on the HSTs proving themselves resiliant and not needing frequent DMU substitution?

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Highlandspring · 11 Apr 2019

As of the May timetable change there will still be 5x class 314 diagrams per day. There will be strengthening on the EK branch though.

anthannan · 11 Apr 2019

EMU303 said:
With approx 55 x 385's now delivered to SR and the remainder due over the next 6 weeks or so, will that eliminate all the 314s and will it provide additional DMU capacity on other routes e.g. EK, Fife, Borders? Or does that later plan depend on the HSTs proving themselves resiliant and not needing frequent DMU substitution?

FYI - Currently, 56 Delivered & 44 In Service

SC318250 · 11 Apr 2019

Looks like tonight’s move is cancelled. Loco from Tyne was cancelled

snookertam · 11 Apr 2019

Highlandspring said:
As of the May timetable change there will still be 5x class 314 diagrams per day. There will be strengthening on the EK branch though.

Does this mean extra 385s directly replacing them, or will there be a cascade involving 320s?

A7rud · 12 Apr 2019

385029 on North Berwick service today.
Also newly delivered 385037 on test runs Edinburgh / Dunbar.

kidman123 · 17 Apr 2019

Any further movements on c385

anthannan · 18 Apr 2019

Balfarg1982 said:
Any further movements on c385

Not that I know of. Currently 56 delivered and 51 in service. More deliveries due but that's as much as I know.

800001 · 18 Apr 2019

anthannan said:
Not that I know of. Currently 56 delivered and 51 in service. More deliveries due but that's as much as I know.

385038 and 385039 moving north this evening on Merchant Park - Craigentinny.

SeaKing · 18 Apr 2019

When they are all up and running how many of them will be needed each day.

Altnabreac · 18 Apr 2019

Balfarg1982 said:
Any further movements on c385

The folk over at Scot-rail.co.uk (who are usually very well informed) reckon that it is three more 4 car units to come from Newton Aycliffe over the next 2 weeks, followed by the remaining five 3 car units from Newton Ayclffe over the first two weeks of May. Late May should then see the arrival of the final four units from Italy.

Sickandtired · 19 Apr 2019

Anyone seen info of the may timetable? We are almost there but cant find anything.

themiller · 19 Apr 2019

Sickandtired said:
Anyone seen info of the may timetable? We are almost there but cant find anything.

This should be in the
Allocations, Diagrams & Timetables section but go to: https://www.scotrail.co.uk/plan-your-journey/timetables-and-routes and look for the relevant timetable ‘from 19 May’.

anthannan · 20 Apr 2019

JamesGar said:
385038 and 385039 moving north this evening on Merchant Park - Craigentinny.

Thanks for the info

03_179 · 20 Apr 2019

I managed a couplenof trips on 385s last Sunday between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh.
They are nit too bad. Bright and airy inside with decent PIS

I'd much rather 47/7 with Mkiii and DBSO but sadly times change.
The 385s are slightly better than the 158s I've caught before.

No delays encountered on the new trains. Seating was as per usual now being functional rather than comfortable.

matchmaker · 20 Apr 2019

I see from the latest Sectional Appendix that there is a permanent speed restriction of 75mph for all emus between Larbert and Stirling "until further notice". Anyone know why? Normal speed restriction is 95/100 mph.

SC318250 · 20 Apr 2019

Post on Scot-rail earlier in week says that 385 operation on Shotts line will start this Tuesday. Not sure how many services per day tho

Southsider · 20 Apr 2019

SC318250 said:
Post on Scot-rail earlier in week says that 385 operation on Shotts line will start this Tuesday. Not sure how many services per day tho

Interesting, I was wondering if there were enough 385s plus retained 314s to support an electric service via Shotts.

hexagon789 · 20 Apr 2019

matchmaker said:
I see from the latest Sectional Appendix that there is a permanent speed restriction of 75mph for all emus between Larbert and Stirling "until further notice". Anyone know why? Normal speed restriction is 95/100 mph.

Something to do with the catenary perhaps?

InOban · 22 Apr 2019

I see that there's an STP for a light engine from Tees to the factory on Wednesday, which suggests that there will be a further delivery then.

SC318250 · 22 Apr 2019

Looks like
0715/1016/1316/1616 Glasgow Central to Edinburgh via Shotts
0858/1157/1457/1755 Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Shotts

Are booked 385 from tomorrow to Friday

jamieintercity · 23 Apr 2019

SC318250 said:
Looks like
0715/1016/1316/1616 Glasgow Central to Edinburgh via Shotts
0858/1157/1457/1755 Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Shotts

Are booked 385 from tomorrow to Friday

385019 is on the diagram today. I wonder when we will see more on the cathcart circle and shotts line?

GLC · 23 Apr 2019

jamieintercity said:
385019 is on the diagram today. I wonder when we will see more on the cathcart circle and shotts line?

Just saw a 385 on 2M79 go past my window heading to Pollokshaws East. First time I’ve seen one out on an evening service on the circle

youngac · 23 Apr 2019

GLC said:
Just saw a 385 on 2M79 go past my window heading to Pollokshaws East. First time I’ve seen one out on an evening service on the circle

RTT suggests that this was 385019, which formed the 1945 Central - Newton service after finishing its duties on the Shotts line.

route101 · 23 Apr 2019

Highlandspring said:
As of the May timetable change there will still be 5x class 314 diagrams per day. There will be strengthening on the EK branch though.

EK all 4 and 6 cars?

gordonjahn · 24 Apr 2019

matchmaker said:
I see from the latest Sectional Appendix that there is a permanent speed restriction of 75mph for all emus between Larbert and Stirling "until further notice". Anyone know why? Normal speed restriction is 95/100 mph.

This was posted in the HST introduction thread months ago:

mcmad said:
hearing it should be ok but with a 75mph TSR EMU only between Larbert and Stirling due to additional dynamic load testing not being completed on time.

Maybe the load testing hasn't happened yet?

170401 · 24 Apr 2019

gordonjahn said:
This was posted in the HST introduction thread months ago:

Maybe the load testing hasn't happened yet?

The speed restriction was removed around the time electric services started to Stirling. Can guarantee EMUs have been travelling at linespeed between Larbert and Stirling since they were introduced.

jamieintercity · 24 Apr 2019

InOban said:
I see that there's an STP for a light engine from Tees to the factory on Wednesday, which suggests that there will be a further delivery then.

The STP from tees is cancelled including a STP from tyne. So, it doesn't appear to be a delivery tonight.

snookertam · 24 Apr 2019

youngac said:
RTT suggests that this was 385019, which formed the 1945 Central - Newton service after finishing its duties on the Shotts line.

First time in a very long time there's been units swapped between those two routes. You'd probably have to go back to the early 1960's?

InOban · 25 Apr 2019

A light engine has just left Tyne. SS.

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