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May 2019 timetable pdf Files

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The first of the new May 2019 timetables have appeared on TOC websites.

Published so far are:
  • CrossCountry Trains
  • East Midlands Trains
  • TfL Rail
 
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Updated list of timetable pdfs available:
  • CrossCountry Trains
  • East Midlands Trains
  • Northern (except for the new Chester-Manchester-Leeds service)
  • Southeastern
  • TfL Rail
  • TransPennine Express
 
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Has anyone noticed any changes to the Northern times? Or are they not taking any risks this time and keeping them the same?

I suppose the real test for them will be in December with the new Northern Connect services, new trains and (supposed!!) withdrawal of the pacers. Although I was in Leeds a few months ago, watching the trains coming in and out (mostly pacers) thinking there is no way...
 

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thameslink sort of update:
mon-fri 1 extra service ph cambridge to brighton
sat 1tph cambridge to brighton
2 extra tph bedford-gatwick( very good news indeed!, back to normality!)
 

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Any chance we can keep this thread to updates on the published timetable pdf files please?

There are other threads for discussing the timetable changes themselves, including one specifically on Northern.
 

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I've previously downloaded the full pdfs of tables 001 to 243 and find them useful in planning an outing.
Is it known when these will be available and from where they can be obtained?
 

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I've previously downloaded the full pdfs of tables 001 to 243 and find them useful in planning an outing.
Is it known when these will be available and from where they can be obtained?
Usually very close to the timetable change date - I will keep the list updated on a weekly basis.
 

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A large number of TOC timetable pdfs have now appeared:

As of this evening the following are available on TOC websites:
  • CrossCountry Trains
  • East Midlands Trains
  • Gatwick Express
  • Great Northern
  • Hull Trains
  • LNER
  • Northern
  • Southeastern
  • Southern
  • South Western Railway
  • TfL Rail
  • Thameslink
  • TransPennine Express
  • Virgin Trains
 

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TfW timetables are now available on their website - but they don't show the new Northern services between Chester and Warrington Bank Quay (- Manchester Victoria). As these aren't shown on Northern's own timetables, this creates the slightly bizarre situation of there being no printed timetable available for them at all...
 

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TfW timetables are now available on their website - but they don't show the new Northern services between Chester and Warrington Bank Quay (- Manchester Victoria). As these aren't shown on Northern's own timetables, this creates the slightly bizarre situation of there being no printed timetable available for them at all...

Further to my previous post, Northern do have a timetable showing the full service between Manchester and Chester via Warrington (https://d2cf7kiw5xizhy.cloudfront.n...wn-includes-helsby-to-ellesmere-port-2300.pdf). However, this doesn't show the TfW services from Liverpool - Chester (which call at Helsby and Frodsham). So there's no printed timetable showing all services Frodsham - Helsby - Chester.
 

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Further to my previous post, Northern do have a timetable showing the full service between Manchester and Chester via Warrington (https://d2cf7kiw5xizhy.cloudfront.n...wn-includes-helsby-to-ellesmere-port-2300.pdf). However, this doesn't show the TfW services from Liverpool - Chester (which call at Helsby and Frodsham). So there's no printed timetable showing all services Frodsham - Helsby - Chester.
That’s a recent update - the file 15 on the timetable page doesn’t include Chester.
 

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Further to my previous post, Northern do have a timetable showing the full service between Manchester and Chester via Warrington (https://d2cf7kiw5xizhy.cloudfront.n...wn-includes-helsby-to-ellesmere-port-2300.pdf). However, this doesn't show the TfW services from Liverpool - Chester (which call at Helsby and Frodsham). So there's no printed timetable showing all services Frodsham - Helsby - Chester.
Northern are probably being extra cautious by not printing information about things that are outside their control. They won’t want any more bad PR after last year.
 

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What a strange timetable Northerns route 36 Leeds Man vic is.
Low moor station has a and d times but no trains stop there! No mention of the Leeds Huddersfield or Leeds Blaclpool. Poor.
https://www.northernrailway.co.uk/travel/timetables
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Don't know why there's an arrival time for Low Moor but the table only shows Manchester services. Table 45 shows Leeds-Hebden Br in full.
 

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As of this evening the following are available on TOC websites:
  • CrossCountry Trains
  • East Midlands Trains
  • Gatwick Express
  • Grand Central
  • Great Northern
  • Hull Trains
  • LNER
  • Northern
  • Southeastern
  • Southern
  • South Western Railway
  • TfL Rail
  • Thameslink
  • TransPennine Express
  • Transport for Wales
  • Virgin Trains

Still to go are:
  • c2c
  • Caledonian Sleeper
  • Chiltern Railways
  • Greater Anglia
  • GWR
  • London Northwestern Railway
  • London Overground
  • Merseyrail / Merseytravel
  • Scotrail
  • West Midlands Railway
  • Network Rail eNRT
  • Network Rail Working Timetables
 

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As of this evening the following are available on TOC websites:
  • CrossCountry Trains
  • East Midlands Trains
  • Gatwick Express
  • Grand Central
  • Great Northern
  • Hull Trains
  • LNER
  • Northern
  • Southeastern
  • Southern
  • South Western Railway
  • TfL Rail
  • Thameslink
  • TransPennine Express
  • Transport for Wales
  • Virgin Trains

Still to go are:
  • c2c trenitalia
  • Caledonian Sleeper serco
  • Chiltern Railways arriva/dB
  • Greater Anglia Abellio
  • GWR First
  • London Northwestern Railway Abellio/JERC/Mitsui
  • London Overground arriva/dB
  • Merseyrail / Mersey travel Abellio/serco
  • Scotrail Abellio
  • West Midlands Railway Abellio
  • Network Rail eNRT
  • Network Rail Working Timetables

Seems to be a bit of common thread between most of the owning groups for those yet to publish?
 

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Merseytravel always publish Merseyrail timetables[Merseytravel are the publishers of Merseyrail timetables] around a week before the change.
 
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Scotrail have got all of their timetables up but 3 are missing (aberdeen to inverness, Lanarkshire and dumbartonshire are the ones not available yet)
 

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As of this evening the following are available on TOC websites:
  • Chiltern Railways
  • CrossCountry Trains
  • East Midlands Trains
  • Gatwick Express
  • Grand Central
  • Great Northern
  • Greater Anglia
  • Hull Trains
  • LNER
  • Northern
  • Scotrail (Most)
  • Southeastern
  • Southern
  • South Western Railway
  • TfL Rail
  • Thameslink
  • TransPennine Express
  • Transport for Wales
  • Virgin Trains

Still to go are:
  • c2c
  • Caledonian Sleeper
  • GWR
  • London Northwestern Railway
  • London Overground
  • Merseyrail / Merseytravel
  • Scotrail (5 routes still outstanding)
  • West Midlands Railway
  • Network Rail eNRT
  • Network Rail Working Timetables
 

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It's really curious that the area timetable booklets used by TfW (and before them ATW and even back to FNW) have not significantly changed their presentation in two decades.
There are too many booklets, and none of them, at least up here in the north, give a comprehensive picture of all the available services.
It surely can't be difficult to present all the "north" timetables (ie Coast-Manchester/Crewe, Cambrian-Birmingham, Manchester-Cardiff plus the few local lines in one booklet, with another one for the "south"?
For a long time, the Cardiff-Holyhead services have been only partially shown in three separate booklets (Cambrian, Coast and Marches).
Now we have the new Chester-Liverpool service (in the Coast timetable) not showing the Wrexham extensions.
And Northern's Chester-Leeds service doesn't appear at all!
You'd think that these marketing and PR tools would be presented in a more organised fashion.
The NR GBTT is hardly any better, and has never shown the Cardiff-Holyheads properly.
The TfW timetables do at least show some connections (but not all), while the GBTT has given up showing any connections at all.
 

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Some more added to the list today - available now are:
  • Chiltern Railways
  • CrossCountry Trains
  • East Midlands Trains
  • Gatwick Express
  • Grand Central
  • Great Northern
  • Greater Anglia
  • Hull Trains
  • LNER
  • London Northwestern Railway
  • Northern
  • Scotrail (Most)
  • Southeastern
  • Southern
  • South Western Railway
  • TfL Rail
  • Thameslink
  • TransPennine Express
  • Transport for Wales
  • Virgin Trains
  • West Midlands Railway

Still to go are:
  • c2c
  • Caledonian Sleeper
  • GWR
  • London Overground
  • Merseyrail / Merseytravel
  • Scotrail (5 routes still outstanding)
  • Network Rail eNRT
  • Network Rail Working Timetables
 
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