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Extinction Rebellion transport disruption from 17/04/2019

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https://rebellion.earth/tube-services-april-17th/

The climate change group intend to stop all tube lines and some train services tomorrow!

I am sure a lively debate shall follow!!

n April 17th, XR will nonviolently disrupt Tube services to highlight the emergency of ecological collapse.

The MET Police, British Transport Police and RMT have been told about this action as part of a plan to make sure the actions are carried out peacefully and safely. The actions have designed to be as safe as possible for both participants, passengers and workers. Participants will peacefully break the law in order to stop the Tube and then will wait to be arrested.
 
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Let's hope they have a thorough understanding of third/fourth rail.
 
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Ultimately if the worlds metro’s & mainline rail become regular, vulnerable & easy targets for these climate change protests, it just increases pollution when users switch to alternatives
 

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How did all the protesters get to the rallies in the first place? Did they all walk?
 

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Ultimately if the worlds metro’s & mainline rail become regular, vulnerable & easy targets for these climate change protests, it just increases pollution when users switch to alternatives

Yes, baffling why they are disrupting part of the very solution to the problem they are campaigning about....
 

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These people are idiots; I'm all for protecting the environment and making green choices, but that means being pro public transport.

The fact that these people are anti public transport suggests they are just pathetic anarchists. I therefore have no time for them.
 

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This selfish rabble of the great unwashed have no thought for people they are delaying going about their business or trying to get home from work and taking already overstretched police away from what should be their normal duties of catching criminals. Arresting them doesn't help as it just plays into their hands and just gives them more publicity.
 

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Bicycles ?

Apparently they have travelled from far and wide, I wouldn't have thought it was all walking and bicycles. The fact they have no doubt been flying in or driving down in their Range Rover's is amusing, but to start causing havoc on their ideal solution is hilarious.
 

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These people are idiots; I'm all for protecting the environment and making green choices, but that means being pro public transport.

The fact that these people are anti public transport suggests they are just pathetic anarchists. I therefore have no time for them.
They’re not anti-public transport. Reading their statements on their website they compare it to shouting “fire” at the occupants of a burning house; a disruptive act designed to raise awareness of an imminent catastrophe.
 

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From the same link https://rebellion.earth/tube-services-april-17th/

Why disrupt the Tube?
As with a labour strike, economic disruption is key in forcing the Government to come to the table and negotiate our demands. We will start by blocking roads and cars for the first days and escalating our action to the public transport infrastructure afterwards. The disruption will rapidly increase the longer it continues. This action has also the important effect of alerting the public to crisis by disrupting their daily lives. The logic here is the same as with shouting “There’s a fire in the house!”- the disruption is necessary to protect lives in the long term. Not just ours, but our children’s and grandchildren’s.

So there's a bit more reason behind it than just being anti-public transport in that it's about general civil disobedience. I doubt it's the case that they're opposed to public transport at all. Nevertheless, disrupting the Tube or any other public transport will be very very stupid indeed and will undermine their campaign and demands. Not only is it dangerous for them, it likely is for others given that underground stations are busy, enclosed spaces, not to mention the electrified rails. Underground staff will also likely be on tenterhooks all day as well.

They made sure to name drop any famous people and celebrities who have backed their campaign - not sure they'll be able to continue to count on that backing. I agree with them that we need urgent action and achieving that will mean disruption of some order, but this is dangerous.
 

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They’re not anti-public transport. Reading their statements on their website they compare it to shouting “fire” at the occupants of a burning house; a disruptive act designed to raise awareness of an imminent catastrophe.
That's an odd comparison for them to make... They're doing a lot more than 'shouting fire'
 

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If they act against public transport yet claim not to be against it, is absurd and demonstrates a lack of intelligence as well as reducing any credibility they may otherwise have had.

Making up some convoluted excuse doesn't negate the fact that this is an absurd action.
 

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If they act against public transport yet claim not to be against it, is absurd and demonstrates a lack of intelligence as well as reducing any credibility they may otherwise have had.

Making up some convoluted excuse doesn't negate the fact that this is an absurd action.
I suppose the Suffragettes targeted horse races because they hated the sport, then?
 

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These people are idiots; I'm all for protecting the environment and making green choices, but that means being pro public transport.

The fact that these people are anti public transport suggests they are just pathetic anarchists. I therefore have no time for them.
Unfortunately although I do have sympathy for their cause, this is very much not a sensible target to attack.
Something of an own goal going for public transport I feel.
 

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I suppose the Suffragettes targeted horse races because they hated the sport, then?
They did it for publicity. But if you want people to see your argument, and if your argument is that we should make more environmentally friendly choices , then protesting against greener forms of transport is utterly absurd, and won't get many people on side at all.

All it will do is demonstrate that they are extremists , with unrealistic views and demands, lacking in intelligence.
 

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I suppose the Suffragettes targeted horse races because they hated the sport, then?

That's not true. We've all grown up with that as the most famous "fact" about the Suffragettes but the reality is different.

"Who threw themselves under the king's horse" is notorious as a pub quiz question most people think they know the answer to, but most don't.
 

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I hope the Luddites oops I meant so-called climate protestors get done for obstructing the railway, preferably without causing any significant disruption. They may have missed that not only does BTP have jurisdiction over the LU system, but it has a substantial portion of its officers dedicated to the tube.
 

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Now spread to Nottingham and Edinburgh. Needs stamping out pronto but how could that happen in view of the numbers and Britain's soft justice. Water cannons would have done the trick if they hadn't been ruled out but this might upset the poor darlings.
 

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Presumably as London Underground know about this, they will have to discharge the traction current so no one is at risk of electrocution?
 

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Idiots, he lot of them. They are just as bad, if not worse, than other recent protests we have seen both for and against Brexit with considerably more arrests. I wonder how much the policing of this will cost, including the processing and charging of the idiots, and how environmentally friendly that is
 
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