Abellio Greater Anglia Class 755s (Regional Trains)

jopsuk · 17 Apr 2019

Richard Ingram said:
I did wonder. Why do they need to be there? I can't see a modern train needing enough water to warrant a top up during the day.

we're getting quite off topic, but it's not uncommon for the loos/sinks to need a top-up mid diagram. Often especially see intercity trains at, eg, Kings Cross being topped up (the outlets are under hatches in the platform there). And do trains stable in those platforms overnight?

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chubs · 17 Apr 2019

There's water hatches as described above at Norwich on the platforms.

Probably also Liverpool St too?

Shunter_69 · 17 Apr 2019

Liverpool Street have a mobile tanker

trebor79 · 17 Apr 2019

Talking of toilets a Liverpool Street, I was surprised to see toilet paper scattered along the tracks at the the platforms there. I thought all of the stock was fitted with retention tanks?

Bletchleyite · 17 Apr 2019

trebor79 said:
Talking of toilets a Liverpool Street, I was surprised to see toilet paper scattered along the tracks at the the platforms there. I thought all of the stock was fitted with retention tanks?

I don't believe the Mk3s are.

306024 · 17 Apr 2019

Mk3 stock have retention tanks. Many 321s don't.

Bletchleyite · 17 Apr 2019

306024 said:
Mk3 stock have retention tanks. Many 321s don't.

Were the Anglia ones retrofitted after they moved from the WCML? Mk3s did not, other than the Sleepers, have them from the start.

trebor79 · 17 Apr 2019

Yes they were fitted a few years ago. There's only 1 bog in each carriage as there was insufficient room to accommodate the necessary for both to be done. No lav at all in the buffet car.

dk1 · 17 Apr 2019

Bletchleyite said:
I don't believe the Mk3s are.

All mk3s are on Anglia. That's the reason the 1730 down was cancelled last night as only 1 was working with all the others full. This has happened several times.

dk1 · 17 Apr 2019

Bletchleyite said:
Were the Anglia ones retrofitted after they moved from the WCML? Mk3s did not, other than the Sleepers, have them from the start.

Not fitted until 2016.

43096 · 17 Apr 2019

trebor79 said:
Yes they were fitted a few years ago. There's only 1 bog in each carriage as there was insufficient room to accommodate the necessary for both to be done. No lav at all in the buffet car.

There’s only space for a tank at the number 1 end, brake frame in the way at the other end.

LAX54 · 18 Apr 2019

Today's delivery: 755413 & 755414 with 66002 doing the tugging

Jim Jehosofat · 18 Apr 2019

43096 said:
There’s only space for a tank at the number 1 end, brake frame in the way at the other end.

This made me giggle, if there were room for anther tank it would be at the number 2 end!

43096 · 18 Apr 2019

Jim Jehosofat said:
This made me giggle, if there were room for anther tank it would be at the number 2 end!

I did think that when posting it!

chubs · 18 Apr 2019

Four car looked very sleek parked up in the sidings near Riverside retail park Norwich today.

Much nicer than the current DMU's and silly ancient slam door junk.

dk1 · 18 Apr 2019

chubs said:
Four car looked very sleek parked up in the sidings near Riverside retail park Norwich today.

Much nicer than the current DMU's and silly ancient slam door junk.

The very first train has now been stabled in the upgraded Wensum sidings. It's a 755 but not sure if it's one of today's new arrivals.

LAX54 · 18 Apr 2019

Current plans for next week, or so we are advised:
24th and 25th The 755 Norwich to Cambridge ASDO tests
26th and 27th The 755 Norwich to Lowestoft ASDO tests
24th to 27th The 745 Norwich to Colchester / Ipswich Running Dynamics tests.

nxea321446 · 19 Apr 2019

dk1 said:
The very first train has now been stabled in the upgraded Wensum sidings. It's a 755 but not sure if it's one of today's new arrivals.

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Class 170101 · 20 Apr 2019

swills said:
The 755/745's are now cleared for all routes at Norwich, and at Colchester all routes bar one. (Sudbury sdg), Somerleyton Bridge also OK now.

londonmidland said:
180s. Watch this space.

Class 755s will almost certainly want that siding for use as nothing else fits in it going forward.

RealTrains07 · 21 Apr 2019

I dont think the stadlers will be good replacement for the GA HST tbh

dk1 · 21 Apr 2019

RealTrains07 said:
I dont think the stadlers will be good replacement for the GA HST tbh

GA HST?? That's news to me :lol:

grumblingalong · 21 Apr 2019

dk1 said:
GA HST?? That's news to me

The mighty scuds of course!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_153

RealTrains07 · 21 Apr 2019

dk1 said:
GA HST?? That's news to me

The fast express trains??

dk1 · 21 Apr 2019

RealTrains07 said:
The fast express trains??

Just class 90 & mark 3 stock. I often wonder whether we would've got trams if electrification hadn't happened in 1987. Would've been no running above 100mph but might have had more regular through Yarmouth's in the same way Weston gets an extension on the Great Western.

chubs · 21 Apr 2019

RealTrains07 said:
I dont think the stadlers will be good replacement for the GA HST tbh

What HST's?

If you mean the life expired mk3's and the long past it's best short hauled set they will be excellent replacements. No more creaking, lurching, squealing, draughty rust buckets.

RealTrains07 · 21 Apr 2019

chubs said:
What HST's?

If you mean the life expired mk3's and the long past it's best short hauled set they will be excellent replacements. No more creaking, lurching, squealing, draughty rust buckets.

Yes 1 set of doors per carriage which i dont know how that would work? and where is the buffet car or shop??

dk1 · 21 Apr 2019

RealTrains07 said:
Yes 1 set of doors per carriage which i dont know how that would work? and where is the buffet car or shop??

Buffet/Bistro is almost between 1st & standard so coach 3 or 10 depending on how they are numbered.

Greg Read · 22 Apr 2019

chubs said:
What HST's?

If you mean the life expired mk3's and the long past it's best short hauled set they will be excellent replacements. No more creaking, lurching, squealing, draughty rust buckets.

Maybe not 'lurching' but reckon the squealing wlll still be there, and after a few months the creaking and draughts will be back ! I am sure wherever units have replaced locomotive hauled trains they have soon missed what has gone

Bletchleyite · 22 Apr 2019

RealTrains07 said:
Yes 1 set of doors per carriage which i dont know how that would work?

They are short vehicles and wide doors.

and where is the buffet car or shop??

There is one but I don't know the precise position of it. Probably between 1st and standard, as that's where it normally is.

chubs · 22 Apr 2019

Greg Read said:
Maybe not 'lurching' but reckon the squealing wlll still be there, and after a few months the creaking and draughts will be back ! I am sure wherever units have replaced locomotive hauled trains they have soon missed what has gone

There wont be any droplights to leave open because it isn't the 1970's anymore. Hopefully no faulty vestibule doors either, and if there is presumably a good chance of them actually being fixed with service contracts.

Much like then the Pendolino's came along and relegated this junk to us, massive improvements are coming. Everyone I know who travels on the line cant wait for the new trains, one who isn't an enthusiast was very excited to see one doing test runs as it meant the end for the old crap.

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