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Class 172 Refurbishment/Snow Hill Capacity

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Fincra5 said:
Looks like they've been removed. They're not needed on WMT so why bother keeping and maintaining them?
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WMT opened up a dialogue with the RMT over potentially moving to driver door operation about 2 weeks ago so I thought it was a bit of an interesting move to remove the equipment entirely rather than just ignore it is all.
 
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Freshly painted and refurbished example is sitting in the sidings up near Tyseley station; very smart. Sorry as didn't get chance to get a picture. Still a small yellow panel in a similar style to Chiltern's 168s on the front. Looks excellent.
 
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They'll need to be cleared for the yard for Sunday's & for disruption.
 
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Old Hill Bank said:
This could be a 172 PTI test.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S63136/2019/04/28/advanced
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It's 4 cars. 172003 and 172008, both in new livery. They are testing platform height etc.

Interesting that even though it was a few mins late at Coventry and clashed with the LNWR passenger service to BHM, they gave it priority into platform 3, presumably because that was where they needed to check it. All the BHM passengers had to suffer a last-minute move to platform 4.
 
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I am finding it a bit difficult to keep up with current location and status of these 172`s coming to WMT. So PRM mods are being undertaken at Ilford and new livery work undertaken at Tysley. Is it taking three weeks to re-livery each set? May timetable change on Sunday 19th. How many 172`s are needed on which routes and will they enter service on 19th? I do not expect WMT to run 172`s without new livery?
Would someone give us an up to date table on status of each unit please?
 
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Neen Sollars said:
I am finding it a bit difficult to keep up with current location and status of these 172`s coming to WMT. So PRM mods are being undertaken at Ilford and new livery work undertaken at Tysley. Is it taking three weeks to re-livery each set? May timetable change on Sunday 19th. How many 172`s are needed on which routes and will they enter service on 19th? I do not expect WMT to run 172`s without new livery?
Would someone give us an up to date table on status of each unit please?
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It seems that they have been spending about 6 weeks at Ilford for fitting of toilet etc.
This is my understanding (in chronological order), but I'm happy to be corrected.

172002: To Ilford July 2018. To Tyseley 22 Dec 2018.
172006: To Ilford Dec 2018(?). To Tyseley 26 Jan 2019.
172003: To Ilford Jan 2019. To Tyseley 29 Mar 2019.
172008: To Ilford 18 Feb 2019. To Tyseley 5 Apr 2019.
172005: To Ilford 18 Feb 2019. To Tyseley 12 Apr 2019.

The remaining 3 remained in service with LO until:
172001 + 172007: To Ilford 18 Mar 2019 (am).
172004: To Ilford 18 Mar 2019 (pm).
One or more of these may have moved to Tyseley yesterday (27 Apr) but this has yet to be confirmed.

003 and 008 are definitely in the new livery. There may be others.
 
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Will the 172/0's only operate on the Leamington/Coventry/Nuneaton route or will they also operate on other routes such as the Snow Hill lines?
 
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VT 390 said:
Will the 172/0's only operate on the Leamington/Coventry/Nuneaton route or will they also operate on other routes such as the Snow Hill lines?
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Two units are required for Leamington-Nuneaton from next month, the remainder will be deployed on Snow Hill services.
 
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Old Hill Bank said:
Two units are required for Leamington-Nuneaton from next month, the remainder will be deployed on Snow Hill services.
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The May timetable has 3 additional morning peak services from Whitlock's End/Dorridge into Birmingham. I find it hard how they will introduce these services without the new 172s.
New:
07:33 Whitlock's End - Birmingham Snow Hill 07:54
08:11 Dorridge - Worcester Shrub Hill 9:38 (BSW @ 08:39)
08:23 Whitlock's End - Stourbridge Junction 09:10 (BSW @ 08:45)


Retimed:
07:41 (prev 07:43) Startford Upon Avon - Birmingham Snow Hill 08:40
07:47 (prev same) Leamington Spa - Birmingham Snow Hill (08:26) (Now express from Dorridge calling Solihull only - previously continued to Worcester Shrub Hill 09:40, via BSW @ 08:43)

(I may have muddles some departure times with arrival times. All times were meant to be departure.)

(I haven't looked much at the Stourbdige End but it looks pretty much totally retimed in the new timetable.)

Also since there doesn't seem to be a separate thread for timetable discussion, may as well add that Dorridge/Whitlock's End branches are increasing evening services from 1 train per hour to 2 through to end of service.
 
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centraltrains said:
The May timetable has 3 additional morning peak services from Whitlock's End/Dorridge into Birmingham. I find it hard how they will introduce these services without the new 172s.
New:
07:33 Whitlock's End - Birmingham Snow Hill 07:54
08:11 Dorridge - Worcester Shrub Hill 9:38 (BSW @ 08:39)
08:23 Whitlock's End - Stourbridge Junction 09:10 (BSW @ 08:45)


Retimed:
07:41 (prev 07:43) Startford Upon Avon - Birmingham Snow Hill 08:40
07:47 (prev same) Leamington Spa - Birmingham Snow Hill (08:26) (Now express from Dorridge calling Solihull only - previously continued to Worcester Shrub Hill 09:40, via BSW @ 08:43)

(I may have muddles some departure times with arrival times. All times were meant to be departure.)

(I haven't looked much at the Stourbdige End but it looks pretty much totally retimed in the new timetable.)

Also since there doesn't seem to be a separate thread for timetable discussion, may as well add that Dorridge/Whitlock's End branches are increasing evening services from 1 train per hour to 2 through to end of service.
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The 172/0s are indeed vital to the Snow Hill capacity improvements. Sadly on the Stourbridge/Kidderminster side the lengthened/additional services are mostly at the wrong times!
 
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