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GWR Intercity Express Train (IEP) initial diagrams & allocations
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Does that mean 802s stabled at Oxford overnight?
I believe that’s in the long term plan.
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I'll be honest, as nice as the Turbos are (also coupled with their reliability), it'll be great to see all services to and from Oxford and London Paddington worked by Class 800 / 802 trains 
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I'll be honest, as nice as the Turbos are (also coupled with their reliability), it'll be great to see all services to and from Oxford and London Paddington worked by Class 800 / 802 trains !
!I've recently started using 1P03, 0550 from Oxford-Paddington, which is currently a pair of Turbo's. Please excuse the lack of knowledge, but do I understand correctly that these should transfer over to 800/802 in December or could this be as early as the May timetable change?
It doesn't look like that will change in May (and neither does it look like the 1718 Paddington to Oxford will). That of course means that the 1106 / 1406 Paddington to Bedwyn remain turbo as well.
The units for 1P03 are at Oxford overnight. The units for 1D35 (1718 from Paddington) can be traced back to Reading depot, local services and forward to an overnight stay at Oxford. That means they can't be 800s. Not sure whether 10-802 is suitable for stops at the local stations before platform extensions are completed.
Whilst I accept that I shouldn't totally rely on what is in the open data feeds, it looks like 1K25 appears to trace back to Reading-Newbury/Bedwyn shuttles in the morning peak even after the timetable change starting with 2K22 0515 Reading to Bedwyn, and later using platform 3 at Newbury. Isn't 1D35 currently a pair of Turbos with the other one coming from Old Oak Common reception line?
RTT indicating that in the May timetable 1R06 1757 London Paddington to Reading will be formed of stock from Reading depot running empty to Paddington then straight into the depot afterwards and 2R60 1757 London Paddington to Reading is formed of 387s empty from Maidenhead. Looks like 1R06 will be formed of whatever is available at Reading depot - timed for a Turbo for flexibility.
Not how it works. The traction will be specific to the diagram that 1R06 is part of. If it’s a 387 diagram, then 387s will be allocated, if it’s a Turbo diagram then Turbos will be allocated.
No, 1K25 attaches front at Reading and runs into London as a 6 car.
There are various paths in which aren’t used; so take the open data with a ladle of salt.
No, the modified 802 is still being monitored in service to establish whether the modifications have been successful
An (informed) posting on the WNXX forum appears to suggest they will run with train managers rather than DOO initially.
There are LTP paths in open data feeds to show how IETs will operate these services at some point after the May timetable change, perhaps even from 20 May.
Taking 26 June as an example as the timings seem to be different in the first week or so.
3K03 0401 London Paddington to Bedwyn appears to run as a 10-car, dropping a unit at Reading for 2K22 0515 Reading to Bedwyn and going on to work 1K03 0538 Bedwyn to London Paddington
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C23942/2019/06/26/advanced
3K05 0435 London Paddington to Newbury also runs as a 10-car, again dropping a unit at Reading for 2K24 0549 Reading to Bedwyn and going on to work 1K05 0609 Newbury to London Paddington
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C23944/2019/06/26/advanced
That basically sets up the Bedwyn services for the day although it does seem to mean that there are some Reading to Newbury / Bedwyn stoppers which are IETs as well. 1K05 0609 Newbury to London Paddington of course goes on to work 1D15 0721 London Paddington to Oxford as noted in 'Siemens Staines' incredibly useful diagram posting on the previous page. The other three units form the Bedwyn services on a 3-hourly round trip.
As 'JN114' correctly indicates, take this with a ladle of salt but it does seem that using 800s to Bedwyn isn't far off. Interestingly, there is a 1K37 0006 Bedwyn to London Paddington which runs into Paddington ahead of 1P51 from Hereford. The unit which runs evening shuttles from Newbury to Bedwyn appears to remain as a Turbo.
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I heard on the Great Western Coffee Shop today that the Bedwyn Passenger Group have been told that IET's will start on the Bedwyn's after the May TT change. As stated in #1844 this is apart from the evening shuttles to/from Newbury which will be a Turbo.
Kite159
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I know it sounds like a stupid question, but is there many 802/1 diagrams for bank holiday Monday?
About 15 working diagrams.
reddragon
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800.319 was on the Thames Valley local stopper tonight 1D35.
It lost a lot of time at each stop, being 8 down by Didcot, loosing that just between Reading & Didcot
It lost a lot of time at each stop, being 8 down by Didcot, loosing that just between Reading & Didcot
Melancholia
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Set swap, not a permanent change. It was either this, or a two car Turbo.
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Is that the first time on a local stopper to Oxford?
Melancholia
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I believe so, don't recall one doing the local stations.
I hope they give some extra timings for the local stops between Reading and Didcot, and also for Radley, as half a minute is not enough for an IET, especially if most of the time it takes a long time for the doors to release.
Booked 9 car 800 from next week. No changes to timings.
No Turbos on 1Kxx services - indeed the only 1Kxx service operated at all by the LTV fleet is the 1631 Newbury - Padd 4 car 387.
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Wasn't it claimed dwell times would be shorter with IETs
Dwell times are shorter for IETs than HSTs - it would be a bit unreasonable to expect dwell times with IETs to beat those of a Turbo.
Maybe give the passengers a chance to get used to an IET and where they need to be in the train to get off at their stop. On the Cotswold Line the Oxfordshire halts passengers in particular now know exactly which doors to use and walk up unprompted.
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The 0923 Newbury-Paddington 1K11 is also (currently) a 4-car 387, and has been since they started - is that changing to IET also?
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