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Two votes strongly against Wizz Air, definitely glad I didn't book with them the other week after all! Plans are now being recast.

Blue Air, any opinions gents?

Not flown with them personally, but I believe @AlterEgo had a bad trip with them, in one of his trip reports on YouTube

 
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Wizz are rubbish. If it was possible to be worse than Ryanair they managed it.

If you're not short, you need to book the exit row. Legroom is awful on some of the older aircraft. I physically can't sit down in a regular seat on those aircraft.
I thought 5ft 8 was a regular height but alas Wizz Air must think 5ft 4 is average height.
I cannot imagine flying on the Luton to Georgia flight in one o
Not flown with them personally, but I believe @AlterEgo had a bad trip with them, in one of his trip reports on YouTube

That review put me right off them as well.... Urgh.
 

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I'm 5'10" so I'd definitely have issues. Yet I've had no issues with legroom on any other airline. Except for on Norwegian in the non-extra legroom seats on their 787s that is.

To be worse than Ryanair says a lot. This is why I've asked on here, as if you watch Wizz Air trip reports on YouTube the reviews are normally quite positive. That being said most airline reviews on there are, even when their flight is heavily delayed and with rubbish legroom, broken IFE or whatever other issues there may be. I've recently given up following many aviation channels on YouTube for that reason, the reviews just don't really help reflect the experience with many channels now.
This is my problem with many of them, always sucking up to the airlines in the aim of getting free upgrades etc.
That's why I like Paul Lucas, Non Stop Dan and Josh Cahill because they actually will criticise and helps me book my trips accordingly.
 

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Two votes strongly against Wizz Air, definitely glad I didn't book with them the other week after all! Plans are now being recast.

Blue Air, any opinions gents?

They have an awful website but I felt the service and comfort was decent when I used them (at least as far as low-costs go). They are very small so there's always the off-chance they might fail (so make sure your insurance covers airline failure, which is sensible anyway) but no complaints from me. Dead cheap too.
 

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Anyone here have any experience of Royal Brunei in Economy on long haul flights?

I am heading to Australia in October and looking at various options and by far they are the cheapest and don't charge for seat reservations.

I am aware of the dry in flight refreshments but that does not bother me.
 

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I think you need to carm down in more ways than one. Stop virtue signalling and taking this moral high ground just because you have a relative who works in the industry. I do love how some folk on this forum become the thought police and must know what your thinking whilst you type.

I always try to have a laugh with staff on board and never had a single complaint and if I ever over stepped the mark I would expect the cabin manager to give me a good talking to. Actually I would expect it.and Marshall to meet me at the other end.

Having a bit of banter isn't for me talking to them in a manner that would get the thought police involved for offending folk and/or being derogatory. It's helping make the flight go quicker and helps keep morale up. I have called them air stewards/Air stewardesses since I can remember and that will never change.

If you don't like it, then lump it.

Other than that the Stewards/Stewardesses on BA are pretty good in general. Can be hit and miss at certain times of year or if they been called in off standby. I find the ones going to a location they want to visit gives them that extra spring in there step. Helps that many of them follow myself and likewise in return on Instagram and you do get to see beyond what you see when you board.

Still a long way off Qantas staff mind ;)
Right you can quit with telling me I am virtue signalling for calling you out on chatting rat. I will guarantee you that your hilarious jokes calling cabin crew stewardessess are not well recieved. There are pages and pages of stories on the internet about how annoying people "saying it like it is" are. You are the kind of person that makes me glad I am not on a flight my sister is working. I'm not thought police. You need to have a word with yourself though.
 

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Two votes strongly against Wizz Air, definitely glad I didn't book with them the other week after all! Plans are now being recast.

Blue Air, any opinions gents?
Wizz are better than Blue Air if you get a newer aircraft. That is hit and miss.
 

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Anyone here have any experience of Royal Brunei in Economy on long haul flights?

I am heading to Australia in October and looking at various options and by far they are the cheapest and don't charge for seat reservations.

I am aware of the dry in flight refreshments but that does not bother me.

Well if you're gay, you might get stoned to death en route :p
 

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Wizz are better than Blue Air if you get a newer aircraft. That is hit and miss.

Thanks, that helps me and having read the other comments I'm not going to waste my time with them either. I'm rushing to get ready for work, otherwise I'd quote them too. Much appreciated everyone for your comments!

I had forgotten Paul's video, I've seen it before months ago but may have to re-watch it. I agree his videos are very good, same for Josh Cahill. Two reviewers who are much more impartial than a lot of them are. I do like Dennis Bunnik and Paul Stewart's productions too, and SANspotter is pretty good too. His humour makes his videos even better! Nonstop Dan, I used to watch his stuff too, but I stopped after he became so focused on sponsors in his videos got on my nerves.

I'm meant to be on a red pen fest in London tomorrow, but I'm mighty tempted to get off my coach at Heathrow and have a mighty big spotting session there instead. Watching some heavies taking off from T5 sounds like fun right now...
 

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Right you can quit with telling me I am virtue signalling for calling you out on chatting rat. I will guarantee you that your hilarious jokes calling cabin crew stewardessess are not well recieved. There are pages and pages of stories on the internet about how annoying people "saying it like it is" are. You are the kind of person that makes me glad I am not on a flight my sister is working. I'm not thought police. You need to have a word with yourself though.

When someone tells you you're "virtue signalling", what they are saying is you're right, and they have no arguments against you, but they resent the fact that you're right and they are angry about it. It's not much of an insult.
 

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Anyone here used Germanwings/Eurowings or even Level?

I have used Eurowings a few times between Manchester and Germany. They have reduced their destinations from Mcr recently so have consequently reduced my usage with them. I found them to be a good airline, simple website, good value, friendly staff and good aircraft. Was also a pleasant surprise to download the app and although wifi was charged for, for free you could use the app to track the flight, i enjoyed that.
 

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I had another decent flight on Wizz Air from Vilnius to Luton last weekend, first time flying on Wizz Air UK on the A321 which are all very new. If you book the legroom seat 12A you have oodles of space. Best of all the price was 31 euros including priority boarding/cabin bag and an extra legroom seat - 36 euros if you include the G+T I bought onboard. Incredibly good value in my opinion for a flight from one end of Europe to the other.
 

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I had another decent flight on Wizz Air from Vilnius to Luton last weekend, first time flying on Wizz Air UK on the A321 which are all very new. If you book the legroom seat 12A you have oodles of space. Best of all the price was 31 euros including priority boarding/cabin bag and an extra legroom seat - 36 euros if you include the G+T I bought onboard. Incredibly good value in my opinion for a flight from one end of Europe to the other.
Yeah, Wizzair are fine unless you get unlucky. Had a rather uncomfortable flight back to Liverpool from Katowice in January on an older A320 which was really hot after spending the night in the airport (Not the airlines fault, it was planned).
 

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Anyone here used Germanwings/Eurowings or even Level?

Yes, Eurowings is basically like flying Lufthansa short-haul - their new A320s are almost identical inside. The only difference is that you don't get a snack and drink if you buy the basic tariff, but they do offer a fare slightly higher where you do get a refreshment.

Level is the same group as Vueling (IAG who also own BA/Iberia/Aer Lingus) right? Not a fan at all, that airline has cancelled three flights on me at short notice due to their own incompetence. Stuff like that winds me up far more than crap seats. The only time I did actually manage to fly Vueling no one could hear the safety demo - bit unprofessional.
 

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Yeah, Wizzair are fine unless you get unlucky. Had a rather uncomfortable flight back to Liverpool from Katowice in January on an older A320 which was really hot after spending the night in the airport (Not the airlines fault, it was planned).

I actually think easyJet's A319s with the old seats are damn uncomfortable - I remember flying down to Gibraltar on one and it was horrid. I am quite fortunate that BA are usually cheaper flying Glasgow to Gatwick (my regular route) anyway and I am a Bronze cardholder so I get free seat selection etc. Not that the BA A319s are that great either but they do have some nice touches like coat hooks. I do like BA's ground staff at Glasgow and Gatwick, they are really nice and noticeably less flustered than the low cost airlines contracted staff. I am happy easyJet operate the route but the fact BA is often the same price means I would always go with them and the flights are usually full so others agree.
 
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No doubt it helps that you can build your Avios miles with BA too!

That is a primary reason for choosing to book with BA for me, the Avios!
 

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No doubt it helps that you can build your Avios miles with BA too!

That is a primary reason for choosing to book with BA for me, the Avios!

Indeed and a great perk considering my work pays for the flights and doesn't care about points (in fact the booking system encourages it by asking for your Exec Club number!). We can book what we want but if there's an equivalent flight within half an hour that's cheaper the system forces us to book that. However surprisingly I've only been pushed off BA onto easyJet once which shows you something! If we really want we can get the train (and because of the environmental impact rail is preferred for domestic) but Glasgow to Brighton just makes sense on the plane (and hop on the Brighton Line) given its work time and can go there/back in a day.
 

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Aye that's fair. Interesting BA are often coming in cheaper than easyJet! I keep seeing ads lately for easyJet flights for £39.99 (or thereabouts) but they all seem to be when two people fly. That still bugs me, it's a bit like hotels charging you per person instead of per room. Or like Jet2's awesome sounding offer of £60 off your next Jet2Holiday deal, which only applies to a booking for 2 or more people. If they were willing to make it fairer on solo travellers and make the offer say £30 off for solo travellers that's still enough to tempt me to book a deal with them again. I get that it helps persuade families to book another trip, but those of us who fly solo are left out. Heck I'd be happy with a free coffee instead!
 

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The new seats are great, though. Someone needs to fit them to a train. They are how to do thin seats rather than a certain class of bi-mode.

They are decent agreed, always seems to be an A319 when I fly them though only had the new A320 once. The seats are similar on the BA A320 NEO. I also find the new type of slim seating on Ryanair 737s good too.
 

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Aye that's fair. Interesting BA are often coming in cheaper than easyJet!

Sure, booking in advance usually about the same but BA are sometimes more pricey nearer the time. In parallel, Flybe are often cheaper than easyJet on Belfast-Glasgow too but I need to fly to Antrim so always take the latter.
 

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Sure, booking in advance usually about the same but BA are sometimes more pricey nearer the time. In parallel, Flybe are often cheaper than easyJet on Belfast-Glasgow too but I need to fly to Antrim so always take the latter.

I'd pay more for Sleasy in that case, at least you know it'll turn up.
 

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The Easyjet pricing per person is only slightly more when you book as one traveller compared to the headline ‘2 travelling’ price. Rarely more than a quid or so in it.
 

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Do they offer a discount for 2 travelling together? Didn't know that.

It’s not a discount as such, but the price per person drops slightly if more than one person is on the same booking. I think it’s something to do with the (inclusive) fees rather than base flight price itself; possibly the card fee?

Edit: just checked for a flight I’m doing later this year. For one it’s £70pp, two is £62pp, 4 is £58pp. Rather more than the quid or so I quoted above, apologies!
 

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While I was on easyJet’s site, I noticed that prices to Madrid from London over the weekend of June 1st have more than doubled since yesterday. Some astronomical fares! That’s football for you.
 

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It’s not a discount as such, but the price per person drops slightly if more than one person is on the same booking. I think it’s something to do with the (inclusive) fees rather than base flight price itself; possibly the card fee?

Edit: just checked for a flight I’m doing later this year. For one it’s £70pp, two is £62pp, 4 is £58pp. Rather more than the quid or so I quoted above, apologies!

Thanks for clearing that up :)

I guess if it helps fill the planes then happy days, even if solo travellers miss out. Ah well, it's only easyJet anyway!

Which somehow reminds me, in November I'm flying via Frankfurt. So two questions:

1) I'm assuming flight transfers work in the same sort of way as at Abu Dhabi. Get off one plane, through transit security, to the departure gate. Is this a reasonable assumption?

2) Is there much in the way of decent catering outlets at Frankfurt? I'm going to be on Japan Airlines over to Tokyo so I'm planning to have a decent meal before boarding. I'm not entirely expecting to like much in the way of food either on the airline or in Japan itself to be honest!
 

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Which somehow reminds me, in November I'm flying via Frankfurt. So two questions:

1) I'm assuming flight transfers work in the same sort of way as at Abu Dhabi. Get off one plane, through transit security, to the departure gate. Is this a reasonable assumption?

Yes, more or less. Assuming you're arriving from the UK, you probably won't have to go through security or passport control. Depending on exactly where you arrive and depart, you might have a short or a long walk. It's all pretty efficient, though. When you arrive, check the number of your departure gate (there are screens everywhere to do this), then just follow the signs to get there.

2) Is there much in the way of decent catering outlets at Frankfurt? I'm going to be on Japan Airlines over to Tokyo so I'm planning to have a decent meal before boarding. I'm not entirely expecting to like much in the way of food either on the airline or in Japan itself to be honest!

Again, it depends exactly where you are. JAL seem to use both terminals in FRA. But yes, there are good catering outlets. The "German"-type food, i.e. meat and potatoes (and maybe a beer) is good, and there are various other options. You can certainly fill up well before the flight.

JAL will probably have Japanese and "western" food. Once you get there, the food in Japan is great in my opinion, and even if you don't like Japanese food, you can eat almost anything you want somewhere in Tokyo. Be adventurous. :)
 
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