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Train Prep in a station
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Greater Anglia certainly used to test them on the wrong side at Cambridge for one particular train, pre-May 2018. Obviously do the wrong side before the platform side!
Train prep's can get carried out at any location where a train might stop, and depending on access depends on how much of the prep is carried out. I believe there is also differences between a prep being carried out by a fitter and by a driver. Even on depot's a 'full prep' might not be carried out due to specific berthing arrangements (i.e. limited access down one side of a unit). In general, if a prep can be carried out in a station, and there is no obstructions preventing a wrong side release, then there is no reason why it can't be carried out in a safe manner, however, there may be rules that exist as a 'just in case' and I would always walk through a unit on a platform before releasing any doors to ensure that I had control of the situation.
Matt Taylor
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We test both sides when prepping trains in a station on SWR, offside first and when passengers are kept away from the platforms.
Both sides can be tested in platforms. Come to Sheffield at 5am and you'll see every Northern Pacer and Sprinter being tested both sides.
tomwills98
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Cardiff Central have an agreement with GWR to fill the Portsmouth services up with water at the West end of platform 2 before they pull up to load passengers
theironroad
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Guess it depends on location as well, as testing non platform side alongside an active running line is a no no for us. Some trains could be out of gauge if opened alongside a running line.
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That's not a prep. That's just part of turn round servicing of the unit. Same as they put the reservation labels out and go through clean the units
Seen a unit have wrong-side door testing at Darlington in the past (in one of the bays)
hstmatt
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When I was at Manchester Piccadilly, we had quite a few jobs when you would travel 'pass' to Chester and was booked to do a door test. Would always test the non-platform side first, then the platform side so passengers couldn't board with the doors open on the wrong side
dk1
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Trains with defects that would not be permitted on a depot prep are sometimes kept at the station or at a stabling point allowing them to enter service the next day. Once moved onto the depot they would not be permitted in traffic until repaired.
As stated nothing below the sole bar is examined on a platform prep either.
As stated nothing below the sole bar is examined on a platform prep either.
tsr
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Indeed. But this is something which shows just how farcical the regulations are, given they can be side-stepped so easily. Someone needs to take a serious look at some of the country’s fleet control procedures. There is no way a defect can be safe for a 200 mile journey if it’s on a train sitting in a platform, but as soon as it trundles down to the depot half a mile away, it has to be immediately quarantined. It’s either one or the other.
This is so far from the reality of actually quantifying the risk from a specific fault.
Admittedly some of the faults in question are quite minor ones, and sometimes the procedure acts more like a sort of non-urgent recall programme, but there will always be the odd exception...
I remember this happening after youths made entry to (I think) St Leonards depot and stoned a lot of windows(I want to say 20 windows over multiple units), as it was only a stabling point for electric services, trains could enter service from there, but it was going to make fleet availability an issue if the units returned to brighton or selhurst as the window fitters couldn't fit the windows quick enough and they had a 4 hour cure time on the glue, so they were kept away and brought in one/two at a time on rotation. I have a feeling this was around a half term and the little darlings didn't have much to do...
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