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I do think it's time these trains are refurbished. The seat covers look fairly worn inside and these trains were last refreshed in 2003-2005. Does anyone agree with me?
I do think it's time these trains are refurbished.
Hasn't some work been done on the two car units already?
Even the XC train interiors look far more cleaner and are worthy of a thumbs up than the GWR 165's and all the 166's except 166205! The XC fleet obviously being the Voyagers, HST's and Turbostars .
Have you seen 166205 recently? The grey flat cloth looks far more stained and dirty after a comparatively short period than the navy moquette on the rest of the fleet.
Have you seen 166205 recently? The grey flat cloth looks far more stained and dirty after a comparatively short period than the navy moquette on the rest of the fleet.
What does that mean?
Strange, I’d have said while the 166s are decent enough, it’s the 165s that are really looking grotty these days!I have only travelled on a few of the 165s at Bristol and they have on the whole been bright and in fair condition. The 166s on the other hand are in serious need of being refurbished.
It's generally regarded that 205's refurbishment was unsuccessful, and no more have been attempted. FGW/GWR's record on unit alterations is very poor, with passenger information such as first class identification (inside and out) and general signage being applied apparently randomly and wrongly.On YouTube / maybe the odd glimpse when at Bristol Temple Meads back in February or maybe a few times before that I've seen 166205. I'm not surprised the interior would have got dirty - it was refurbished nearly 4 years ago for the GWR brand launch after all !
I have only travelled on a few of the 165s at Bristol and they have on the whole been bright and in fair condition. The 166s on the other hand are in serious need of being refurbished.
Not on a hot day... When they transformed into mobile ovens!Wow, the 165s were refurbished before the 166s back in 2010, and when they were in Reading, the 166s were the pride of the fleet.
It did bring a smile to my face when a 166 turned up on a stopper instead of a 165.
I’ve noticed this too. It seems some 158 hybrids have up to 6 bicycle spaces. If I am correct, the 166s have space for 2 and on my morning commute I regularly see cycles pushed into the gangways or blocking doors.Went in a 166 yesterday Green Livery,Green Carpet and Blue Seats.I think Bristol Area Trains deserve new stock instead of cascades from other areas.I dont know whether the Castle HSTs will be ideal at busy times as there are not enough doors
and these services carry a high number of cycles which will be clogging up the vestibules.
Across different parts of the transport industry retrimming and reupholstering are used interchangeably as far as I can make out. If you had a car retrimmed it would most probably include all the linings as well as the seats. There’s a firm in Eastleigh that does bus seating overhauls which is known as “Hants and Dorset Trim”.When the Turbos were refreshed in January 2010, the seats were 're-trimmed'. What does that mean?
That sounds about right.Across different parts of the transport industry retrimming and reupholstering are used interchangeably as far as I can make out. If you had a car retrimmed it would most probably include all the linings as well as the seats. There’s a firm in Eastleigh that does bus seating overhauls which is known as “Hants and Dorset Trim”.
In rail terms I doubt there’s a significant difference between the terms either...
I think they would allow 2+2, we have to remember that last refurbishment they were still used on the thames valley stopper services. I think the 166s atleast should be fitted with either the first class seats in 166205 or the standard seats in GWR HSTs.I would personally like to see the 3+2 seating replaced with 2+2 seating when they inevitably receive their next refurbishment, but as I understand it the DfT isn't keen on this.
The 2+2 seating would be good. Hopefully feel less cramped.I think they would allow 2+2, we have to remember that last refurbishment they were still used on the thames valley stopper services. I think the 166s atleast should be fitted with either the first class seats in 166205 or the standard seats in GWR HSTs.
I thought that the plan was that the Turbo's were getting 2+2 for the Cardiff-Portsmouth route.They won’t allow 2+2 - they are still obsessed about peak seat numbers, even in Bristol.
I thought that the plan was that the Turbo's were getting 2+2 for the Cardiff-Portsmouth route.