Stagecoach East Scotland

Big Ralphie · 17 May 2019

Liam said:
X26 route won't change but I'm positive the timings will.

Yeh x26 would miss out passengers especially cuper going up A92 as it used to go hopefully times have been worked out to allow a lot of ground to be covered on some of these suggestions especially peak time

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overthewater · 17 May 2019

Shame, if the X26 could be more reliable if it went via A92. There has also been talk of a new Peak express X7? Maybe that is for the Bay passengers? It's also possible this could be all day Bay could still get plenty of people at times. I can see the X55 changing, Will the X51. I'm surprised there just don't cut short the X60 at Leven and have a new 96? Leven - fast - Anstruther - St Andrews

Big Ralphie said:
Yeh x26 would miss out passengers especially cuper going up A92 as it used to go hopefully times have been worked out to allow a lot of ground to be covered on some of these suggestions especially peak time

Cupar - halbeath section would still have X59 and X24 still plenty of choice

Big Ralphie · 17 May 2019

Personally I hope x26 does just go straight up A92 as the whole idea of express is to get there asap do we no what the deal with the x51 is as seems to be busy and unable to lift passengers going to Livingston especially in the morning from time to time seems the planning for the changes has taken a long time in the makeing

RomeoCharlie71 · 17 May 2019

I would like to have seen the X54 between Dundee and Edinburgh retained - it provides an (extremely) cheap alternative to Citylink and the train, even though it takes considerably longer. I think Stagecoach have missed a trick here.

overthewater · 17 May 2019

Maybe Stagecoach hasn't. It's megabus operations will be overhauled on Monday to provide a proper hourly service between Dundee and Edinburgh in 90mins.

How comes the madness: £13.00 single on the X54 Edinburgh to Dundee.... But wait £11.50 for Fife + dayrider, which means your quicker buying that and jumping on X26 and changing over at Halbeath.

RomeoCharlie71 · 17 May 2019

That's what I'm saying - Dundee to Edinburgh in 90 minutes is great but at extortionate prices.

overthewater · 17 May 2019

Something doesn't add up. X58/X60 at times can come in Full at the Ferrytoll, Which means there already busy around the Bay/ Kirkcaldy, where can there cram in more passengers?

overthewater · 18 May 2019

Service changes are for 29th July.

Big Ralphie · 18 May 2019

overthewater said:
Service changes are for 29th July.

Well that's a surprise it's as late as that in the month especially for Edinburgh services changing with the festival starting that week any problems with changes could result in choas and confusion!

overthewater · 18 May 2019

X26 is staying via cupar, x27 will now operate via forth valley hospital. Edit. There a new x57 to partly replace dirvert x60. A few other rabbits waiting to appeaer...

Nothing is set in stone yet.. Next changes are just 3 weeks later..

Liam · 18 May 2019

overthewater said:
Something doesn't add up. X58/X60 at times can come in Full at the Ferrytoll, Which means there already busy around the Bay/ Kirkcaldy, where can there cram in more passengers?

X60 three times per hour! 12 buses an hour from ferrytoll.
X61 twice per hour from Glenrothes to Edinburgh via Cowdenbeath. The Leven-Glenrothes bit will be stand alone during the day with extensions to/from Edinburgh at peak, i.e. the withdrawn X9 journeys. So off-peak, 3/hr from Glenrothes to Edinburgh, 7/hr from Halbeath. X61 (and X56) appears to be non-stop ferrytoll to orchard brae.

Big Ralphie · 18 May 2019

Liam said:
X60 three times per hour! 12 buses an hour from ferrytoll.
X61 twice per hour from Glenrothes to Edinburgh via Cowdenbeath. The Leven-Glenrothes bit will be stand alone during the day with extensions to/from Edinburgh at peak, i.e. the withdrawn X9 journeys. So off-peak, 3/hr from Glenrothes to Edinburgh, 7/hr from Halbeath. X61 (and X56) appears to be non-stop ferrytoll to orchard brae.

Is all this plans official or still just talking about it seems a big increase to put 12 buses a hour from ferrytoll and 7 a hour from halbeath some no doubt running late will be running together but certainly will solve capacity issues at peak time is x54 just running Glenrothes to dundee then?

RomeoCharlie71 · 18 May 2019

Plans are not set in stone until they have been approved by the Traffic Commissioner, so anything said is subject to change.

Given the scale of these changes, I'd expect a public consultation to be held as well as an internal one.

overthewater · 18 May 2019

X60 is only one per hour it combined with New X57 and revised X58 ( these 2 will cover Bay) to provide 3 per hour from Kirk - Edin. Yes there are the proper proposal which should be going out to the public next week

Liam · 18 May 2019

X54 North of Glenrothes only. Staff being consulted now I believe.

Big Ralphie · 18 May 2019

These plans are more widespread that was first talked about so surely a public consultation will have to be part of final plans as will affect a lot of people with route and timetable changes

Jordan Adam · 18 May 2019

Big Ralphie said:
These plans are more widespread that was first talked about so surely a public consultation will have to be part of final plans as will affect a lot of people with route and timetable changes

It seems pretty likely we'll see a consultation soon.

Liam · 18 May 2019

overthewater said:
X60 is only one per hour it combined with New X57 and revised X58 ( these 2 will cover Bay) to provide 3 per hour from Kirk - Edin. Yes there are the proper proposal which should be going out to the public next week

They clearly want to attract annoyed ScotRail customers. It's no coincidence that Kinghorn, Burntisland, Aberdour (X57) and Markinch (X61) will gain peak time direct services to/from Edinburgh.

Big Ralphie · 18 May 2019

It definitely makes sense to go after disillusioned train passengers putting up with daily cancellations packed in like sardines etc so there is more passengers to be got biggest problem is Queensferry road in Edinburgh at peak both ways where they always loose time and stagecoach can't do anything about it and Edinburgh council got no idea how to solve the problem but definitely good thinking from there commercial department.

overthewater · 18 May 2019

The other big reason might have something to do with all the people complaining about wanting more rail connections, Leven - Edinburgh. Kincardine - Alloa etc Also What about the passengers on the X9 from Beaufort Drive, Bet there wont be happy with the lost of peak service.

RomeoCharlie71 · 18 May 2019

There still seems to be a demand for a service from Fife to South Gyle - at peak times; I'm surprised Stagecoach haven't looked into this further.

Maybe a discussion for another thread ... (hint: green and cream)

Liam · 18 May 2019

ross4122 said:
There still seems to be a demand for a service from Fife to South Gyle - at peak times; I'm surprised Stagecoach haven't looked into this further.

Maybe a discussion for another thread ... (hint: green and cream)

I'm surprised by this too, something going on along Corstorphine Road too, Haymarket would be a popular destination in the morning.

Fifescottish · 19 May 2019

Is the driverless buses not to be used on a route to the gyle/edinburgh park?

Remember the X52 I think a few years back that went via Haymarket. Didn't last long

Stan Drews · 19 May 2019

ross4122 said:
There still seems to be a demand for a service from Fife to South Gyle - at peak times; I'm surprised Stagecoach haven't looked into this further.

Liam said:
I'm surprised by this too, something going on along Corstorphine Road too, Haymarket would be a popular destination in the morning.

Both have been tried before, and never managed to be commercially viable, so would be a brave move to try again.

EnviroExplorer · 19 May 2019

Apologies if it has already been mentioned, but any ideas when the service changes are taking place? Also, will all these X routes be Coaches or will there be some double decker buses on them too, I understand at the moment it is all Plaxton sort Coaches

overthewater · 19 May 2019

29th July 2019, Everything BAR X54 will still be coaches. 8 63 plate from chesterfield ex National express work is coming up to help fill the gaps

EnviroExplorer · 19 May 2019

overthewater said:
29th July 2019, Everything BAR X54 will still be coaches. 8 63 plate from chesterfield ex National express work is coming up to help fill the gaps

Many Thanks

jamieintercity · 19 May 2019

I think some angus changes are taking place on 1st july, mainly council journeys with schools in august (again if stagecoach win any angus schools which i think they won't)

route101 · 19 May 2019

overthewater said:
Maybe Stagecoach hasn't. It's megabus operations will be overhauled on Monday to provide a proper hourly service between Dundee and Edinburgh in 90mins.

How comes the madness: £13.00 single on the X54 Edinburgh to Dundee.... But wait £11.50 for Fife + dayrider, which means your quicker buying that and jumping on X26 and changing over at Halbeath.

I find Citylink quite dear . Less cheap tickets it seems on (concession pass holders taking up seats ?)and walk up tickets dear with no guarantee of seats , old outdated website too.

Big Ralphie · 19 May 2019

Plenty of plans about the express service changes but has anyone heard of changes to the other services i have heard 33 is changing 34 might come back x37 is only going to run from Glenrothes to Kirkcaldy bus station and no longer up to retail park x4 will disappear for new leven to Edinburgh service

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