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Doncaster to Hull 1st class upgrade

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What would you say is the chance of getting a sneaky free first upgrade?

I’m on tonight’s Doncaster to Hull Azuma and might try my luck with the guard (if you don’t ask you don’t get )

* Before I get shouted at, normals I’d just pay the difference but it’s only an hour and at the most I’ll get 1 drinks round a sandwich
(Kitchen seems to close after DON)
 
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Close to zero, although i'm not quite sure what is 'sneaky' about it?
 

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What would you say is the chance of getting a sneaky free first upgrade?

I’m on tonight’s Doncaster to Hull Azuma and might try my luck with the guard (if you don’t ask you don’t get )

* Before I get shouted at, normals I’d just pay the difference but it’s only an hour and at the most I’ll get 1 drinks round a sandwich
(Kitchen seems to close after DON)

Well now that you've broadcast your intentions on a public forum, I would say nil!
 

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Zero chance unless there is a very special circumstance, you become unwell or someone has pre-arranged it for you.

The only other way is if the train is full and someone is in your seat and won't move, your seat is broken and the train managers or guard gives you permission.
 

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Probably more chance of getting away with it by not speaking to the guard! Worst case you would pay the upgrade...

Though I'm not quite sure why you think you deserve it :rolleyes:, justifying a free upgrade because of the short length of the Journey doesn't seem too logical hence the lack of support from posters on here!
 

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I did actually manage to get a free weekend first upgrade once, though it was in BR days & hence a long time ago.

Myself & a pal were on a Heart of England one Sunday, on a Birmingham - Oxford move (47 & Mk2 days). Train was diverted via Kidderminster & the Cotswold line too.

The conductor did come round, but told us as we were 2 of only about half a dozen passengers on board, he didn’t see the point in charging us.
 

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Weekend 1st is now £25 for this journey, so the excess will be cheaper.
Probably more chance of getting away with it by not speaking to the guard! Worst case you would pay the upgrade...
True. I'd not at all be surprised if the Guard doesn't come round to charge the excess as this is toward the end of the journey.

The catering is likely to be all packed up; at best you might get a drink and a biscuit/crisps.
When you say drink, it wouldn't be alcoholic.
Indeed not, for two reasons:
1) because it's the weekend and,
2) based on previous posts, the OP appears to be aged under 18 and I suspect LNER wouldn't serve alcohol knowingly to someone aged under 18, though I am unsure of the legality of that (I do know licensing isn't applicable to trains).
 

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though I am unsure of the legality of that (I do know licensing isn't applicable to trains).
It would inevitably be a breach of licensing conditions to serve alcohol to a person aged under 18 (with the usual 'beer, wine or cider served with a meal bought by adults' exception), were trains to be licenseable. But as far as I am aware, it is not an offence to provide a person aged over 5 but under 18 with alcohol on premises that do not fall under the Licensing Act 2003.
 

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It would inevitably be a breach of licensing conditions to serve alcohol to a person aged under 18 (with the usual 'beer, wine or cider served with a meal bought by adults' exception), were trains to be licenseable. But as far as I am aware, it is not an offence to provide a person aged over 5 but under 18 with alcohol on premises that do not fall under the Licensing Act 2003.
I was thinking that, and I've now done a quick search and discovered this policy:

https://www.lner.co.uk/faq/on-board/on-board-experience/complimentary-alcohol-in-first-class/
Starting from lunchtime, we serve alcoholic drinks to First Class customers aged over 18.

Though of course it's a moot point for this particular journey anyway.
 
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