In the 2019 I wonder how many TOC's have no Semaphores on their route. Very few I think.
Virgin West Coast maybe though they could encounter some on diversionary routes. Apart from that I can't think of any.
Yes, at the Holyhead end (as far as Gaerwen). And they've got a stay of reprieve now that Network Rail have postponed the second half of the North Wales resignalling.Crewe to Chester via Beeston Castle
Also, I’m sure there are some between Chester and Holyhead
what about Southeastern & Southern
Yes, at the Holyhead end (as far as Gaerwen). And they've got a stay of reprieve now that Network Rail have postponed the second half of the North Wales resignalling.
Does Hastings still have semaphores at the Ore end of the platforms? I've not been down there for a year or so but I couldn't turn up anything about them being recently removed in a quick search.
Shrewsbury.Virgin West Coast maybe though they could encounter some on diversionary routes. Apart from that I can't think of any.
If we still count that as a separate TOC of course, but sadly after the Heathrow area semaphore absolute block boxes were abolished last year no longer.Heathrow Express?
Shrewsbury.
C2C, London Overground, Merseyrail (I don’t think there’s any semaphores at Ellesmere Port but I could be mistaken)
That’s it I think - Southeastern work under them at Deal and Hastings
(Also in response to post #10 from @Ianno87)
The Ellesmere Port situation is an interesting one for the pedants to argue over exactly how this aligns to the question as originally asked!
Facts:
Ellesmere Port is a Merseyrail Station.
Ellesmere Port station has a single semaphore, controlling eastbound departures from platform 2.
Platform 2 is not electrified, and therefore sees no Merseyrail service. Excluding 'specials' and occasional engineering-related runs, it is used solely by Northern's thrice-daily (SuX) Helsby (and beyond) DMUs which terminate / start here.
Photographic evidence - 507010 attached.
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Can’t think of any on the main SWR routes off hand. It depends how you define a TOC’s network really, I suspect Yeovil PM is a current part of their network, but would it have been when only diversions and ECS route learners went that way?Are there still semaphores anywhere on the SW trains network? I can only think of Yeovil PM which I still think of as GW...anywhere else?
SWR has regularly scheduled services to, from and through Yeovil Pen Mill so I'd say it's definitely part of their network, even if the services aren't particularly frequent.Can’t think of any on the main SWR routes off hand. It depends how you define a TOC’s network really, I suspect Yeovil PM is a current part of their network, but would it have been when only diversions and ECS route learners went that way?
Alternatively, does a fixed distant on the Ludgershall branch, visible from a train approaching Andover, count as a semaphore signal?
Yes, that’s why I agreed it should be included.SWR has regularly scheduled services to, from and through Yeovil Pen Mill so I'd say it's definitely part of their network, even if the services aren't particularly frequent.
Since the down starter at the branch route at Hamworthy was removed, nothing on the 'spine' to Weymouth.Are there still semaphores anywhere on the SW trains network? I can only think of Yeovil PM which I still think of as GW...anywhere else?
Virgin West Coast
do they still have them in the depot area at Wembley?
Any Euston Drivers will also see them on the Carriage Lines between Harlesden and Wembley....
Yes, also mentioned here:
Yes, that’s why I agreed it should be included.
I think in hindsight as signalling is a Network Rail function the thread’s question should probably have been asked in terms of Network Rail route boundaries, eg I expect Wessex route or Western deals with the Pen Mill question...
Oh right, and of course that does seem pretty logical then, geographically speaking. Should have realised that the Western wouldn't extend under the Wessex area.Yeovil PM is classed as Wessex, as is the route through to Weymouth via Maiden Newton etc. I would assume the boundary is the fringe between YPM box and Westbury box.