WMTrains livery and station branding

whhistle · 14 May 2019

Only just noticed the livery is practically inverted from the first version they produced for the launch.
I thought I was just getting used to it!

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centraltrains · 14 May 2019

Are the trains that were involved in the Watford derailment/crash repaired now?

Bletchleyite · 14 May 2019

whhistle said:
Only just noticed the livery is practically inverted from the first version they produced for the launch.
I thought I was just getting used to it!

The original with the silver that followed the contours of the unit was much nicer.

Spirit555 · 14 May 2019

centraltrains said:
Are the trains that were involved in the Watford derailment/crash repaired now?

Yes both 350233/264 are both back in service and are misformed as is 350246 from the Liverpool derailment too.

HTH

Mark

59CosG95 · 16 May 2019

Been reported over in the 172/0 thread, but 172005 is the 3rd ex-LO 172 in the final WMR colours. https://flic.kr/p/2fL2Fs7

Class172 · 18 May 2019

Apologies if this has already been reported, but Worcester Shrub Hill and Droitwich Spa have both been repainted in the Grey/Orange scheme whilst the LM signs remain.

DavidGrain · 19 May 2019

Rowley Regis was repainted in orange and grey a couple of weeks ago but they seem to have forgotten the hand rails to the ticket office, platform 2 side which are still green

Chiltern006 · 20 May 2019

Just watching a trains at from Tornado922 and noticed that haf the signs are LM but some are LNWR, seen here.

But some are in LM. Odd???

RealTrains07 · 20 May 2019

Chiltern006 said:
Just watching a trains at from Tornado922 and noticed that haf the signs are LM but some are LNWR, seen here.
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But some are in LM. Odd???

Doesnt surprise me since they probably dont have a big design for the signage as i know its the same with Milton Keynes Central except without the new smaller signs as of yet

Chiltern006 · 20 May 2019

RealTrains07 said:
Doesnt surprise me since they probably dont have a big design for the signage as i know its the same with Milton Keynes Central except without the new smaller signs as of yet

Even some of the signs on the Up Fast and DOWN fast platforms were LM

59CosG95 · 21 May 2019

RealTrains07 said:
Doesnt surprise me since they probably dont have a big design for the signage as i know its the same with Milton Keynes Central except without the new smaller signs as of yet

Chiltern006 said:
Even some of the signs on the Up Fast and DOWN fast platforms were LM

As you say, they probably don't have a final design for the illuminated signs yet (the largest ones at Watford Jct & MKC).

Spirit555 · 21 May 2019

Northfield station I currently being tangoed. For some reason Kings Norton missed out.

Mark

59CosG95 · 21 May 2019

Spirit555 said:
Northfield station I currently being tangoed. For some reason Kings Norton missed out.

Mark

Did Longbridge get tangoed too?

Spirit555 · 21 May 2019

59CosG95 said:
Did Longbridge get tangoed too?

No. Its still green, as are most stations sign boards with the exception of Bournville, Barnt Grren & Bromsgrove on the Southside of the Cross City. Is there a pattern emerging there. Funny the 'B' lettered stations done

Mark

59CosG95 · 21 May 2019

Spirit555 said:
No. Its still green, as are most stations sign boards with the exception of Bournville, Barnt Grren & Bromsgrove on the Southside of the Cross City. Is there a pattern emerging there. Funny the 'B' lettered stations done

Mark

Clearly missed a memo there! When did Bromsgrove get new signs?

Spirit555 · 21 May 2019

AFAIK Bromsgrove has had new signage since it opened. It has a Gold background though.

HTH

Mark

Ted172 · 21 May 2019

Spirit555 said:
AFAIK Bromsgrove has had new signage since it opened. It has a Gold background though.

Those are just the Network West Midlands signs but in gold instead of the white, green and blue seen at other stations.

59CosG95 · 21 May 2019

Spirit555 said:
AFAIK Bromsgrove has had new signage since it opened. It has a Gold background though.

HTH

Mark

Ahhh I see what you mean! It was 'new' signage (in that it was newer than the Network WM signs), but it hasn't yet been 'tangoed'.

Ted Fuller said:
Those are just the Network West Midlands signs but in gold instead of the white, green and blue seen at other stations.

Indeed - that was due to a Gold-winning Olympian (I forget who) being a Bromsgrove resident.

Spirit555 · 21 May 2019

No it hasn't I stand corrected, but for some reason its all blue and not green

Mark

XCTurbostar · 22 May 2019

RealTrains07 said:
Doesnt surprise me since they probably dont have a big design for the signage as i know its the same with Milton Keynes Central except without the new smaller signs as of yet

It’s because the portion of platform highlighted - Platform 10, has recently been extended for Enabling HS2 so the new sign was put in place when the works were done.

59CosG95 · 22 May 2019

XCTurbostar said:
It’s because the portion of platform highlighted - Platform 10, has recently been extended for Enabling HS2 so the new sign was put in place when the works were done.

"Enabling HS2"? I assume trains'll be truncated at Watford Jct during some of the major works then.

XCTurbostar · 22 May 2019

59CosG95 said:
"Enabling HS2"? I assume trains'll be truncated at Watford Jct during some of the major works then.

You are right to a degree but I think it’s more to do with stabling overnight. Camden Carriage Sidings have also been extended for Pendolinos as part of the same project.

RealTrains07 · 22 May 2019

XCTurbostar said:
It’s because the portion of platform highlighted - Platform 10, has recently been extended for Enabling HS2 so the new sign was put in place when the works were done.

Could have finished the job surely?

XCTurbostar · 22 May 2019

RealTrains07 said:
Could have finished the job surely?

The Platform structure is owned by Network Rail and was installed/designed by its contractors. West Midlands Trains is responsible for the signage and it was not installed as part of the project.

RealTrains07 · 22 May 2019

Guessing most have seen this from 18th April. (First rebranded 350/1 unit inside and out) has to be released soon surely?

59CosG95 · 23 May 2019

RealTrains07 said:
Guessing most have seen this from 18th April. (First rebranded 350/1 unit inside and out) has to be released soon surely?

I'd assume so too, but if any other refurb projects are owt to go by, the first one always takes a little longer.

Flinn Reed · 23 May 2019

RealTrains07 said:
Not liking the 2 coloured hand rails and mix of dark green and white should be just dark green, white will get way to filthy too quickly

I quite like the proposed 350/730 LNWR interior, but there is a complete lack of consistency with the recently refurbished 230s. These have light green hand rails throughout, instead of dark green. And the exterior is painted white, not silver.

Looking at the CGI images of the 350 refurbishment, this does not seem to be quite as extensive as the recent 172/0 refurbishment (ex-Overground). The 172 interior has some purple panels below the windows to match the 730s/196s, but the 350s seem set to retain the blue interior panels, which do clash with the LNWR green interior (and also previously clashed with London Midland's interior).

RealTrains07 · 23 May 2019

Flinn Reed said:
I quite like the proposed 350/730 LNWR interior, but there is a complete lack of consistency with the recently refurbished 230s. These have light green hand rails throughout, instead of dark green. And the exterior is painted white, not silver.

Looking at the CGI images of the 350 refurbishment, this does not seem to be quite as extensive as the recent 172/0 refurbishment (ex-Overground). The 172 interior has some purple panels below the windows to match the 730s/196s, but the 350s seem set to retain the blue interior panels, which do clash with the LNWR green interior (and also previously clashed with London Midland's interior).

True but then again these are desiros, not 172s which is probably easier to find new panelling for.
Then again wouldnt be surprised since SWR havent changed the panel covers in their refurbed desiros either. At least LNR are actually changing the pole colour cause they aint

59CosG95 · 23 May 2019

Courtesy of M. Davis on Faceache, 139002 is now confirmed to be in WMR final livery.

And dear lord, I need a bucket. *throws up*

Chiltern006 · 23 May 2019

59CosG95 said:
Courtesy of M. Davis on Faceache, 139002 is now confirmed to be in WMR final livery.

And dear lord, I need a bucket. *throws up*
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Only 4 more trains that transferred from LM to WMR need reliverying

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