overthewater
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49 was taken way from that part once all the journeys were extended beyond Danderhall, It's not all cut and dry.
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There was that to it as well. Once the Rosewell extension started Edmonstone Road went from having a bus every 20 minutes to one every 20/40 minutes.
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Thankfully we don't have to deal with that garbage.keeping that greenroad traffic light in the ̶r̶̶e̶̶d̶ green.
There seems to be this view amongst some people that the triaxles are much harder to drive and don't fit anywhere, but my experience of regularly driving the things is that they're no more difficult than the usual LWB Geminis.Ah, but you've done this professionally, so your knowledge is nothing compared to people online complaining about how it can't be done
The fixed tags make very little difference, when I'm driving I barely notice the extra axle - you have to take some corners a little wider to compensate for the extra length, but it's really not as extreme as some people like to make out.
Honestly, they're my favorite buses to drive, and squeezing them through traffic and tight gaps is pretty easy in my opinion - something you have to do regularly at the northern end of the 11 and 7.
The only time they're not so good is on wet cobbles, where the very light steering means you don't have quite enough feel of what the front wheels are doing.
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Sorry, I did look but there seems to have been a lot of traffic on the forum today and I missed it.
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Hillend, surely? They can turn there, and folks can get the 4 on in to town if the lure of the ski centre isn't enough for them.
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Hillend, surely? They can turn there, and folks can get the 4 on in to town if the lure of the ski centre isn't enough for them.
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The 31 is almost exclusively using B8's today. None operating on service 7 though.
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With the new buses giving so much extra capacity on keys routes, are there plans to trim frequencies, at least at the peaks? [ie. save a few buses by getting rid of the ones that just do a few peak journeys] Or is this futureproofing for further growth? Seems odd to spend so much on larger vehicles without getting some savings.
On another note, any ideas about what could be done to ease the overcrowding on 30 out to Fort Kinnaird? Been back and forth to the Fort from work a few times this week, and every bus was crush loaded. I get that you can’t have double-deckers on the current route out to Musselburgh, but is there some way they could ease things through Niddrie and on to the Fort. The journey time is insane with all the extended stops while everyone squeezes on/shuffles up.
On another note, any ideas about what could be done to ease the overcrowding on 30 out to Fort Kinnaird? Been back and forth to the Fort from work a few times this week, and every bus was crush loaded. I get that you can’t have double-deckers on the current route out to Musselburgh, but is there some way they could ease things through Niddrie and on to the Fort. The journey time is insane with all the extended stops while everyone squeezes on/shuffles up.
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Richard Hall will not be amused.
The passengers certainly weren't...
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Sad to hear, but given the sheer unreliability due to them buying those awful Levante's it was to be expected! I wonder who'll cover it now, it would be quite funny if it went to Rabbies or AAA!
For Citylink i doubt that's their priority! Although let's watch as Lothian will now probably launch some express coach services in Scotland mirroring Citylink routes as "revenge".
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This is so funny... But hate to say I told you so 
And to a certain member that wasn't happy about the truth, and the fact we kept highlighting the coach brokedown, this is the reason why....
Revenge Express, we never get you to your destination..
And to a certain member that wasn't happy about the truth, and the fact we kept highlighting the coach brokedown, this is the reason why.... Revenge Express, we never get you to your destination..
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Having done some digging, it would seem this is fake news.
The LMC Levante is in Fort William as we speak and numerous sources say that the info above is incorrect.
The LMC Levante is in Fort William as we speak and numerous sources say that the info above is incorrect.
overthewater
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Are you sure its not been lost from Monday?
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When is lothian likely to to release a detailed list of there forthcoming changes in july?
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To go back on topic with these service changes untill we actually hear something I had a thought with the 21/42/49
The 42 was the only one I didn’t see any change update for, the 21 update could be anything but somehow I get a feeling that maybe they might make the diversion via Brunstane an actual route change with stops added onto it, at least untill Brighton Place reopens which is early next year? Since it has the opportunity to connect both Portobello and Niddrie with Edinburgh College but since it doesn’t actually stop it misses it. I feel the 49 might be a similar case however since it actually serves all the stops on the diversion route that night not be the change and it might be more of a timetable change if anything..
I dont knowas just a penny for a thought here
The 42 was the only one I didn’t see any change update for, the 21 update could be anything but somehow I get a feeling that maybe they might make the diversion via Brunstane an actual route change with stops added onto it, at least untill Brighton Place reopens which is early next year? Since it has the opportunity to connect both Portobello and Niddrie with Edinburgh College but since it doesn’t actually stop it misses it. I feel the 49 might be a similar case however since it actually serves all the stops on the diversion route that night not be the change and it might be more of a timetable change if anything..
I dont knowas just a penny for a thought here
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49 is changing to deckers Monday to Friday, single deck Saturday and Sunday.
48 will be single deck.
Sunday 41s are going back to single deck again.
21 will be entirely deckers.
48 will be single deck.
Sunday 41s are going back to single deck again.
21 will be entirely deckers.
FlybeDash8Q400
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That all works fine tbh EXCEPT the single deck 41's which will not last, they'll need to get changed
I think it's likely the 48 and 49 will interwork at the weekends then
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I guess the 41 will not be a happy change, unless your on the Barnton to city corridor in which you can just use the 43, I hope the 49 is true
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To be fair its still every 15mins to Barton on a Sunday, I doubt it needs to be deckers on both 41 and 43. I still think the 48 should extend to leith and replace that part of the 49s
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The 41s used to be single decks on a Sunday, and it was rarely an issue.
They would put out deckers during the festival, which was the only time they really needed them, in my experience.
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Have it on good authority these are the main changes happening:
1 extended to Leith Links
15 (all journeys as X15) Lochend section removed. Monday - Friday only service
21 some daytime journeys to terminate Lochend. Sunday’s no journeys go to Gyle Centre
30 route change in Stoneybank
33 terminate Sherifhall route change in Clovenstone
48 every 20 mins daytimes, 30 mins evenings and Sundays
ECB X5 and X7 extra peak journeys
No other drastic changes other than timetable alterations.
1 extended to Leith Links
15 (all journeys as X15) Lochend section removed. Monday - Friday only service
21 some daytime journeys to terminate Lochend. Sunday’s no journeys go to Gyle Centre
30 route change in Stoneybank
33 terminate Sherifhall route change in Clovenstone
48 every 20 mins daytimes, 30 mins evenings and Sundays
ECB X5 and X7 extra peak journeys
No other drastic changes other than timetable alterations.
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I know there is funding to extend the No63 to Balerno later in year. Do you know if this has been confirmed?
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I’m skeptical, the 1/48 is definitely believable and the 15 cut back of course but I doubt the X15 will run all day again, they tried that back when it ran out to prestonpans and it got withdrawn, and the Saturday service being cut I don’t know, is it that quiet on a Saturday? I would think with it being cut back to the city they could trial a Sunday service yet again.
21 going part route to Lochend would be terrible, the service is always busy on every sector of the route having it back to 30 minutes towards Portobello-RIE would be a disaster, Sunday gyle journeys withdrawn I could buy more since you could still connect to a 12/400 on the route to go to the gyle
30 change is questionable since it is a very popular service within Musselburgh, and it does cover all of the west side of the town, but I can’t recall if it ever had a route change ever in the past decade.
33 doesn’t even serve clovenstone, unless it’s being extended there to connect with Baberton which makes more sense
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Been told to keep an eye on Lothians website on Monday. What I’ve posted is supposedly what staff have been officially told.
But if you’re expecting anything more exciting than this you’re in for a disappointment!
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I just take what I hear with a pinch of salt these days
I’m trying to not get my hopes too high but it would be nice seeing something more with the network expanding. Most of that is a mix and mash, as someone who uses the 21 it would be disappointing to see it curtailed again especially when it was so nice to see it extended beyond Leith links
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The 1 is being extended to Leith Links because the roundabout at the foot of Easter Road is getting removed at some point, so it won't be able to turn there anymore.
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FlybeDash8Q400
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The 30 will probably be the removal from Stoneybank Crescent and part of Monktonhall Terrace, It's well used by pensioners but parked cars are only getting worse, In other words it will match the N30 in going straight up Whitehill Farm Road, handy for me as it saves time, pensioners still have the 111 as an alternative anyway
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