SWR Repaints and Refurbishments

SWRtrain_fan · 29 May 2019

59CosG95 said:
The full refurbishment programme, with all its bells & whistles, has yet to begin.

Yes, the SWR Diesel fleet is planned to be internally refurbished by December 2020. Also, does anyone know when 159016 is due to return from Loughborough?

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59CosG95 · 29 May 2019

SWRtrain_fan said:
Yes, the SWR Diesel fleet is planned to be internally refurbished by December 2020. Also, does anyone know when 159016 is due to return from Loughborough?

Well, it left Salisbury for Loughborough on April 12th, followed by 159017 on May 13th. There was a movement from Loughborough back to Salisbury on the 23rd, but that might have gone unnoticed.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97161/2019/05/23/advanced

WVL14 · 29 May 2019

Some departure and arrival dates:

444039 (unit 20) left Eastleigh 28-5

450001 (unit 42) left Eastleigh 25-5
450010 (unit 39) left Eastleigh 24-5

Currently on hand at Eastleigh are

450105 arr 23-5 (unit 43)
450012 arr 25-5 (unit 44)

444035 arr 28-5 (unit 21)
.

43096 · 29 May 2019

SWRtrain_fan said:
Yes, the SWR Diesel fleet is planned to be internally refurbished by December 2020.

That sounds like another franchise deadline for WorstGroup to miss!

Dan15812 · 29 May 2019

NB: SWR Desiro refurbishment is currently being done at a slower rate due to class 442 delay

Partially refurbished 450s:

003, 006, 007, 011, 014, 026, 027, 028, 030, 031, 035, 036, 040, 074, 076, 086, 087, 093, 099, 109, 110, 124, 126(23 units)

Full refurbishment of trains:

444s:
003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 010, 013, 015, 019, 020, 025, 029, 033, 034, 035*, 038, 039, 040, 042, 044 & 045.(20 units completed)(44% complete)

450s:
001, 005, 008, 010, 012*, 013, 015, 016, 018, 019, 020, 024, 025, 032, 033, 037, 038, 041, 073, 075, 079, 080, 081, 082, 083, 084, 085, 091, 094, 095, 097, 100, 102, 103, 105, 106, 111, 112, 113, 115, 117, 119, 121, 122 and 125(43 units completed)(34% complete)

*currently being done

Let me know if any more trains have been refurbished and I will edit this post regularly

pompeyfan · 30 May 2019

Could someone remind me how many extra seats are on a 444 and also a 450 post refurb please?

swt_passenger · 30 May 2019

pompeyfan said:
Could someone remind me how many extra seats are on a 444 and also a 450 post refurb please?

The original plan was:
444 = 333/32F, was 299/35F
450 = 264/16F, was 240/24F
450/5 = 264/16F, was 221/24F
From franchise agreement, page 176:
https://assets.publishing.service.g...rn-railways-2017-rail-franchise-agreement.pdf

But the 444 didn’t get the bike space converted as planned, so I think it’s 4 less standard now..

pompeyfan · 30 May 2019

Thank you very much! There’s a bit of a debate on seats ongoing on Twitter and these numbers are helpful.

442s have 338/32F so;

10.442 676/64F
10.444 666/64F
12.450 792/48F

But 442 and 444 have intercity layout and there’s no guarantee that every middle seat will be occupied.

swt_passenger · 30 May 2019

pompeyfan said:
Thank you very much! There’s a bit of a debate on seats ongoing on Twitter and these numbers are helpful.

442s have 338/32F so;

10.442 676/64F
10.444 666/64F
12.450 792/48F

But 442 and 444 have intercity layout and there’s no guarantee that every middle seat will be occupied.

So if hypothetically NO middle seats whatsoever are occupied, the 12.450 capacity is about 630. But if realistically about half are used there’s still a useful increase over a 444 or 442...

pompeyfan · 30 May 2019

swt_passenger said:
So if hypothetically NO middle seats whatsoever are occupied, the 12.450 capacity is about 630. But if realistically about half are used there’s still a useful increase over a 444 or 442...

I suppose if it was possible to tell the passengers in the timetable or NRE what type of stock it’s formed of, passengers could then chose between guaranteed a seat, or a chance of a comfy seat.

lsdghasu · 31 May 2019

SWRtrain_fan said:
Also, does anyone know when 159016 is due to return from Loughborough?

I saw 159016 in Salisbury Depot yesterday in its new livery.

Dan15812 · 31 May 2019

NB: SWR Desiro refurbishment is currently being done at a slower rate due to class 442 delay

Partially refurbished 450s:

003, 006, 007, 011, 014, 026, 027, 028, 030, 031, 035, 036, 040, 074, 076, 086, 087, 093, 099, 109, 110, 124, 126(23 units)

Full refurbishment of trains:

444s:
003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 010, 013, 015, 019, 020, 025, 029, 033, 034, 035*, 038, 039, 040, 042, 044 & 045.(20 units completed)(44% complete)

450s:
001, 005, 008, 010, 012*, 013, 015, 016, 018, 019, 020, 024, 025, 032, 033, 037, 038, 041, 073, 075, 079, 080, 081, 082, 083, 084, 085, 091, 094, 095, 097, 100, 102*, 103, 105, 106, 111, 112, 113, 115, 117, 119, 121, 122 and 125 (43 units completed)(34% complete)

*currently being done

Let me know if any more trains have been refurbished and I will edit this post regularly

SWRtrain_fan · 31 May 2019

Does the wireless charging actually ever work on the refurbished Desiros? I travelled on fully refurbished 450112 today, and sat in the declassified FC, tried my phone on the wireless charging area and it failed for the second time I've sat in FC on a 450(fully refurbed). Does it ever work for others on this thread?

TEW · 31 May 2019

I've had some success, but it does seem pretty hit and miss.

winks · 1 Jun 2019

Starbucks stores in London have them too, and they don’t work either !

A bit weird installing technology that doesn’t work ?

Adsy125 · 1 Jun 2019

I know it might sound dumb, but a surprising number of people I know have just assumed the pads are broken when their phone doesn't actually do wireless charging! But there do seem to be issues with how reliable the commercial chargers seem to be.

Goldfish62 · 1 Jun 2019

My phone works on them if I take it out of its case. The charger location is a bit too far away for my liking. If I'm leaving my phone unattached to anything on a table I want it closer to me.

Bigfoot · 1 Jun 2019

Goldfish62 said:
My phone works on them if I take it out of its case. The charger location is a bit too far away for my liking. If I'm leaving my phone unattached to anything on a table I want it closer to me.

They've all worked for me with my phone out of it's case. As you say it's abit far away, but then it needs to be shared between the two seats. It's a tough call.

WVL14 · 2 Jun 2019

450012 was released from Eastleigh 1-6 and has been replaced the same day by 450543.
This is the first of the former High Capacity units to be dealt with. When released, it will revert to its former identity of 450043.

swt_passenger · 2 Jun 2019

WVL14 said:
450012 was released from Eastleigh 1-6 and has been replaced the same day by 450543.
This is the first of the former High Capacity units to be dealt with. When released, it will revert to its former identity of 450043.

Is number reversion definitely confirmed now, I think it has always been assumed it will happen.
(I need it to happen to make my post about 450054 in the 'palindromic numbers thread' come true...)

SWRtrain_fan · 2 Jun 2019

NB: SWR Desiro refurbishment is currently being done at a slower rate due to class 442 delay

Partially refurbished 450s:

003, 006, 007, 011, 014, 026, 027, 028, 030, 031, 035, 036, 040, 074, 076, 086, 087, 093, 099, 109, 110, 124, 126(23 units)

Full refurbishment of trains:

444s:
003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 010, 013, 015, 019, 020, 025, 029, 033, 034, 035, 038, 039, 040, 042, 044 & 045.(21 units completed)(47% complete)

450s:
001, 005, 008, 010, 012, 013, 015, 016, 018, 019, 020, 024, 025, 032, 033, 037, 038, 041, 543*, 073, 075, 079, 080, 081, 082, 083, 084, 085, 091, 094, 095, 097, 100, 102, 103, 105, 106, 111, 112, 113, 115, 117, 119, 121, 122 and 125(45 units completed)(35% complete)

*currently being done

Let me know if any more trains have been refurbished and I will edit this post regularly

lsdghasu · 3 Jun 2019

444040 has received nameplates saying 'D-Day story Portsmouth' not sure whether it is tempory or permanent but sure is a nice touch by SWR.

Dan15812 · 4 Jun 2019

444019 still has SWT safety posters.

Dan15812 · 6 Jun 2019

Dose anyone know which units are in Eastleigh being refurbished?

SWRtrain_fan · 6 Jun 2019

Dan15812 said:
Dose anyone know which units are in Eastleigh being refurbished?

450102(should be released tomorrow)
450543(should be released day after tomorrow and will return to its former identify 450043)
Probably a 444 as well, but I don't know which one.

Dan15812 · 6 Jun 2019

Would be nice for 444011 or 444041 to be done because they're my stalker's!

Still haven't done the fab 444 (444018)!

SWRtrain_fan · 6 Jun 2019

Dan15812 said:
Would be nice for 444011 or 444041 to be done because they're my stalker's!

Similarly, 450007 seems to work my line a lot(which is partly refurbished now); it would be nice when it gets fully refurbished.

THC · 7 Jun 2019

Went on my first fully refurbed 450 a few days back. I like the new seating trim but was quite surprised that SWR installed standard sockets rather than USB ports. They would have been less clunky too. All IMO of course; a good job overall.

THC

SWRtrain_fan · 7 Jun 2019

THC said:
Went on my first fully refurbed 450 a few days back. I like the new seating trim but was quite surprised that SWR installed standard sockets rather than USB ports. They would have been less clunky too. All IMO of course; a good job overall.

THC

I agree. I like the new SWR refurbished interiors as well.

37254 · 7 Jun 2019

Do they refurbish the driver seat or do they have to sit on their dating SWT one still?

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