Off lease HST's.

158722 · 11 Jun 2019

Spirit555 said:
Todays 5L46 Laira to Ely

47815

6344, 44059, 42569. 42067, 41089, 42504, 42361, 40755, 6340

Can't be much left at Laira now

My own listing has just the following left at Laira and not allocated a classic or Hull train set - but I wouldn't be shocked if I've missed a move of one/some of them! Updates appreciated.

40902
41008, 41160, 41169
42005, 42015, 42016, 42554
44005, 44013, 44091

Another Classic set was due to be made up from the remnants of LA72, which would leave just enough spares of each type required for now.

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Dave91131 · 11 Jun 2019

43096 said:
More than that...
Angel: 43002/009/010/020/022/023/027/029/171/172/191
Porterbrook: 43063/071/086/088/156/160-162/180/196

Can anybody help with the whereabouts of 43079 + 43159? If these have moved from GWR metals for storage I've missed the info.

Thanks in advance for any help.

nat67 · 11 Jun 2019

Dave91131 said:
Can anybody help with the whereabouts of 43079 + 43159? If these have moved from GWR metals for storage I've missed the info.

Thanks in advance for any help.

They are both stored at Long Marston in Warwickshire.

43096 · 11 Jun 2019

Dave91131 said:
Can anybody help with the whereabouts of 43079 + 43159? If these have moved from GWR metals for storage I've missed the info.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Both at Long Marston - they both went up on 21 April.

Dave91131 · 11 Jun 2019

43096 said:
Both at Long Marston - they both went up on 21 April.

Thanks very much.

Peter Mugridge · 11 Jun 2019

43096 said:
More than that...
Angel: 43002/009/010/020/022/023/027/029/171/172/191
Porterbrook: 43063/071/086/088/156/160-162/180/196

I thought 43002 went off lease the day after the railtour?

43096 · 12 Jun 2019

Peter Mugridge said:
I thought 43002 went off lease the day after the railtour?

Nope, still on lease currently.

You don’t want to believe everything from “GWR propaganda” on other forums!

Peter Mugridge · 12 Jun 2019

43096 said:
Nope, still on lease currently.

You don’t want to believe everything from “GWR propaganda” on other forums!

It was off this forum actually... I'm not on any other railway forums... :lol:

theblackwatch · 19 Jun 2019

158722 said:
My own listing has just the following left at Laira and not allocated a classic or Hull train set - but I wouldn't be shocked if I've missed a move of one/some of them! Updates appreciated.

40902
41008, 41160, 41169
42005, 42015, 42016, 42554
44005, 44013, 44091

Another Classic set was due to be made up from the remnants of LA72, which would leave just enough spares of each type required for now.

Of these, I have...

41008 Ely 22/03/19, 41169 Long Marston 24/01/19, 44013 Ely 18/04/19, 44091 Long Marston 04/04/19.

40902 is the Hull Trains spare buffet.

The rest are coaches which were used on the farewell trip on 01/06/19 and are, as far as I am aware, still at Laira.

theblackwatch · 19 Jun 2019

theblackwatch said:
Of these, I have...

41008 Ely 22/03/19, 41169 Long Marston 24/01/19, 44013 Ely 18/04/19, 44091 Long Marston 04/04/19.

40902 is the Hull Trains spare buffet.

The rest are coaches which were used on the farewell trip on 01/06/19 and are, as far as I am aware, still at Laira.

To update myself...
42005/015/554 and 44005 have been formed into a 'GTi' LA72.
41160 moved to St Philips Marsh with 40902 yesterday.

158722 · 20 Jun 2019

theblackwatch said:
To update myself...
42005/015/554 and 44005 have been formed into a 'GTi' LA72.
41160 moved to St Philips Marsh with 40902 yesterday.

Thnk you, most appreciated!

reddragon · 20 Jun 2019

Some of the off lease stock at Long Marston had the end doors open. Not ideal for keeping water tight!

theblackwatch · 25 Jun 2019

158722 said:
Thnk you, most appreciated!

And to update further, 42016 is now formed in short set LA24.

Mitchell Hurd · 25 Jun 2019

Just be warned that RAIL magazine reports that the HST's in storage could be heading for the scrap yard if no-one gets them. No doubt that will cause an outrage amongst standing passengers, not just us rail enthusiasts!

Tempest3K · 25 Jun 2019

reddragon said:
Some of the off lease stock at Long Marston had the end doors open. Not ideal for keeping water tight!

More likely has no end doors - FGW/GWR removed them from a load of their MK3's!

43096 · 25 Jun 2019

Tempest3K said:
More likely has no end doors - FGW/GWR removed them from a load of their MK3's!

All of their Mark 3s - the only vehicles to retain them were the van end of the TGS and the TF end next to the power car.

fgwrich · 26 Jun 2019

43096 said:
All of their Mark 3s - the only vehicles to retain them were the van end of the TGS and the TF end next to the power car.

All bar the odd few - TGS 44000 had the doors removed at both ends, while IIRC one of the 408XX (Quite possibly the unrefurbished oddball that was 40811) retained them. But as you say the majority of them had theirs removed.

43096 · 26 Jun 2019

fgwrich said:
All bar the odd few - TGS 44000 had the doors removed at both ends, while IIRC one of the 408XX (Quite possibly the unrefurbished oddball that was 40811) retained them. But as you say the majority of them had theirs removed.

Believe 44000 had them robbed before it left GWR. It now has them back at the van the end.

Railperf · 31 Aug 2019

43002 sitting at Ely papworth sidings. Thought it was supposed to be at the National Railway museum at York.

Mag_seven · 31 Aug 2019

Railperf said:
43002 sitting at Ely papworth sidings. Thought it was supposed to be at the National Railway museum at York.

Maybe it hasn't got there yet.

Peter Mugridge · 31 Aug 2019

Mag_seven said:
Maybe it hasn't got there yet.

Some paperwork issue, apparently. There was a mention on Twitter a couple of weeks ago, but I can't remember now who posted it or what exactly they said.

43096 · 1 Sep 2019

Peter Mugridge said:
Some paperwork issue, apparently. There was a mention on Twitter a couple of weeks ago, but I can't remember now who posted it or what exactly they said.

Or that it is up to Angel when it goes - if they have another potential lease for it then they are perfectly entitled to store it for as long as they want. GWR were frankly acting like it was their vehicle to send to the NRM - it isn’t.

Swimbar · 20 Sep 2019

Railperf said:
43002 sitting at Ely papworth sidings. Thought it was supposed to be at the National Railway museum at York.

43096 said:
Or that it is up to Angel when it goes - if they have another potential lease for it then they are perfectly entitled to store it for as long as they want. GWR were frankly acting like it was their vehicle to send to the NRM - it isn’t.

Trundling up the A1 on a low loader this evening presumably on it's way to York

Peter Mugridge · 21 Sep 2019

Swimbar said:
Trundling up the A1 on a low loader this evening presumably on it's way to York

It's going to Shildon for this weekend's gala first.

Southern Dvr · 25 Sep 2019

Is there still an abundance of power cars in store at Papworth? Still no work lined up?

Speed43125 · 25 Sep 2019

Realistically aside from last minute substitutions what would an HST do now? Wabtec are all busy dealing with ScR, XC and GW refurbishing their (rather rusty) Mk3s. so not like you could just pick one up and go given PRM and the time it would take to get a slot in to get it refurbished, and at that point, you'd be better off trying to arrange something with East Coast sets which appear to be in better condition, and certainly have a more workable interior regarding just condition and PRM compliance.
Theoretically could you instal a PRM toilet or two in a set and be fully compliant? are slam doors still seen as okay? or would you have to fit power doors in too?

anamyd · 25 Sep 2019

@Speed43125 I heard that since the sliding door modifications were carried out, it became apparent that they're not actually required for PRM compliance, just changes to the "slam doors" (mechanisms, bars over windows, internal handles)

37047 · 25 Sep 2019

Southern Dvr said:
Is there still an abundance of power cars in store at Papworth? Still no work lined up?

A couple at least although hiding where it's hard to ID them from the passing Kings Lynn service.

Southern Dvr · 25 Sep 2019

I’m curious as to how many short swing link bogied carriages are currently without use. You’d have though Grand Union or another Open Access haven’t tried to use them with some sort of Open Access Southern Region to somewhere operation!

43096 · 25 Sep 2019

37047 said:
A couple at least although hiding where it's hard to ID them from the passing Kings Lynn service.

There are eight power cars at Ely.

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