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Can staff travel be issued to parent if they live at same address

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WarJan

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I understand staff travel are very strict with staff travel and is only permitted for spouse or children or housekeepers however do you think ( to save me from wasting their time) that they would consider allowing my parents or just one parent to have their own staff passes as spouses do. Only reason is, I live with parents so am wondering if atoc would consider giving parents staff passes as I live at their address.



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Hi

I understand staff travel are very strict with staff travel and is only permitted for spouse or children or housekeepers however do you think ( to save me from wasting their time) that they would consider allowing my parents or just one parent to have their own staff passes as spouses do. Only reason is, I live with parents so am wondering if atoc would consider giving parents staff passes as I live at their address.



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I think there is absolutely no chance. And I don't think they would accept a housekeeper as being related either.
 

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Even trying to add a partner is made difficult; I'm afraid I dont think you stand much chance of adding someone outside the scheme rules.
 

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The housekeeper privileges is indeed an old fashioned hang over from a past age. But that's one of the things when old rules are preserved. If it was modernised then the rule would probably be abolished rather than evolved into "any adult you wish to nominate"
 

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The housekeeper privileges is indeed an old fashioned hang over from a past age. But that's one of the things when old rules are preserved. If it was modernised then the rule would probably be abolished rather than evolved into "any adult you wish to nominate"
How fascinating. Although I'm sure the figures wouldn't be publicly avilable, be interesting to know how many housekeepers are on the scheme.
I think there is absolutely no chance. And I don't think they would accept a housekeeper as being related either.
If someone paid a parent to be thier housekeeper would that work?
 

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Are housekeepers permitted? Seems old fashioned.
Well, I am sure that there are many non-working-class/well-paid staff who employ staff to look after their house/children. In more modern times, would an au pair count perhaps? Technically their roles do include house keeping.
 

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If someone paid a parent to be thier housekeeper would that work?
Amending my earlier comment, a housekeeper does have to be related. However, the criteria to qualify for a staff travel pass are quite onerous and the OP doesn't meet them. Full details on the RDG Rail Staff travel website.
 

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Although not always the eaosst to follow and understand when you first read it, here are the terms and conditions on Housekeepers. I didn't notice abgthijng in the CAQ when I skimmed through that.
Section 7: HOUSEKEEPERS
  1. A Housekeeper will not be eligible for rail staff travel facilities if the Employee is married or in a Civil Partnership or a similar relationship irrespective of whether the Spouse, Civil Partner or Partner is receiving rail staff travel facilities, unless the Employee's Spouse, Civil Partner is permanently incapacitated and unable to travel.
  2. A Housekeeper of an Employee may be eligible for rail staff travel facilities if they:
    1. are permanently resident with the Employee in the Employee's own property, and
    2. act as a bona-fide permanent resident housekeeper to the Employee, and
    3. do not act as a housekeeper for any other person, and
    4. are entirely dependent upon the Employee, provided that their gross unearned income does not exceed the current Housekeeper's income limit and they have no earned income, and
    5. are a close personal relative of the Employee, i.e. mother, father, sister, brother, son or daughter, and
    6. are not married or in a Civil Partnership or similar relationship, and
    7. do not own, part-own, rent (or jointly rent), lease (or jointly lease), or have any financial interest in the Employee's residence.
  3. The eligibility of rail staff travel facilities for a Housekeeper is entirely at the discretion of RST
  4. Rail staff travel facilities will only be issued to an eligible Housekeeper upon completion by the Employee of a Housekeeper Application Form, and by RST accepting, the Housekeeper Application Form, that is completed in accordance with the instructions issued by RST, and all evidentiary documentation supplied in support of the application.
  5. If any evidence supplied in support of the Housekeeper Application Form is not completed in English, then the Employee must supply an official or certified translation of the evidence at their own expense.
  6. The eligibility for rail staff travel facilities for a Housekeeper ceases when the Housekeeper:
    1. is no longer permanently resident with the Employee, or
    2. is no longer entirely dependent upon the Employee, or
    3. has a gross unearned income that exceeds the current Housekeeper's income limit, or
    4. has any earned income, or
    5. owns, part-owns, rents (or jointly rents), leases (or jointly leases), or has any financial interest in the Employee's residence.
  7. The eligibility for rail staff travel facilities for a Housekeeper ceases when the Employee:
    1. is married, or
    2. is in a Civil Partnership.
  8. If the Employee is deceased, then the Housekeeper may only continue to be eligible to receive rail staff travel facilities if they:
    1. do not act as a housekeeper for any other person, and
    2. have a gross unearned income does not exceed the current Housekeeper's income limit and they have no earned income, and
    3. do not own, part-own, rent (or jointly rent), lease (or jointly lease), or have any financial interest in the Employee's residence, and
    4. remain unmarried and not in a Civil Partnership or other similar relationship, and
    5. have been receiving rail staff travel facilities as a Housekeeper through the Employee's record, and
    6. are at least 50 years of age at the time of the Employee's death.
https://www.raildeliverygroup.com/rst/eligibility.html#thk
 
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