Gingerbus1991
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I'd have to agree, I think even the 6x2's found in Aberdeen should have it even at 12m.
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Already seen the video but thanks for posting, it's great for showing the benefits.
In terms of manoeuvrability the 12M E500's are about on par with a standard 12M single decker, however tyre scrub is a costly issue. So even then if you were to compare fitting steering axles vs the cost of new tyres every 4 weeks i think it's pretty evident in the long run having the steering axles would be cheaper. Unfortunately back when the Tri-axles here were built ADL were yet to offer steering tags on the Enviro500. (Something which was introduced with the Euro 5 model).
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Went passed marine depot earlier today, an absolute sea of vehicles spanning the entire length of the car park with loads of B7s, 996 still unsold nearly 2 years on, 633 and 3 other tridents id guess 2 are 630/629 and another one
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I'm surprised Lothian don't ask SVBM to hold the spare stock, to free up space.
The SVBM are pretty much full themselves. In any case, Lothian asking the SVBM if they could hold the spare stock is a non-starter. Were it to happen it would soon attract the attention of the local authority, amongst others.
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Why? They did it for stagecoach. It was all outdoor storage.
There's a difference though - Stagecoach are the local operator, and already keep their heritage fleet there. Remember that Lothian Buses actually took their preserved fleet out of the museum several years ago.
Given the bad press which Lothian Buses have had this week - especially regarding the number plates fiasco - the local paper would have a field day if it emerged that LB were using the bus museum as storage in order to free up space at their depots.
I can't say I'm surprised at this. I'm all for a bit of fun, but it's no longer fun when you buy a fleet of new coaches and then apply registrations to them that are thinly-veiled digs at rival operators. These cherished plates cost money and to have the coaches re-registered with standard plates will cost even more money. Money which is coming from Edinburgh taxpayers!
LRT back in the day did have cherished plates on two of their coaches (L70LRT on Toyota midicoach 70 and T80LRT on Dennis Javelin 80), but these were to promote the business and were applied when the coaches were brand new. They certainly didn't go out of their way to buy cherished plates which had digs at SMT, Guide Friday and Silver Coach Lines.
Jordan Adam
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It's a shame they didn't accidentally register one of the coaches LG19 EEN...
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The number plates were a moronic idea, Timberbus, AAA and rabbies should have every reason to take them to court for this behaviour, of course it may not stand in court.
Lothian uses its own cash to implement these number plates.
Stating that the tax payer pays for them is true of any bus company, FiA, FiG, FSE, M/Bluebird and Stagey over the country.
All bus companies take tax payers money through concession reimbursements.
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Who sanctioned the plates on LMC? I'd like to know if Hall knew about it or if he did not. You'd think he did have some idea and had a laugh about it.
I know the 49 is going back to deckers but is there any news on the 1? It has been running a couple of deckers each day, surely LB boses know it either needs a service increase or deckers put on it. Given the new batch of B8Ls, there will be some spare B9s which used to run on the 31... also ex londoners could be used on that 1 too. I got it a few weeks ago and it was standing room for a good part of the route.
I know the 49 is going back to deckers but is there any news on the 1? It has been running a couple of deckers each day, surely LB boses know it either needs a service increase or deckers put on it. Given the new batch of B8Ls, there will be some spare B9s which used to run on the 31... also ex londoners could be used on that 1 too. I got it a few weeks ago and it was standing room for a good part of the route.
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I noticed yesterday, a 300 and a 400 were both using a regular B5 and not a skylink livery bus. Has there been some issues with them?
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Maybe, all buses breakdown at some point
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I reasonably often see a regular bus on the 300 if it's a Gogarburn service i.e. not airport.
You'd think a private plate would be decided upon within LMC - I'm sure some manager thought it would be hilarious and hardly anyone would notice.
With a few Skylink buses having been sent to LCB I imagine they might be tight for branded vehicles if there's breakdowns. I use the 300 pretty regularly and I've noticed a lot more Airlink spec'd buses with the full luggage racks which are a right pain on peak services!
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Have the Ex-London dual doors went Into service yet? I cant imagen they'll be popular at peak times either
Apparently they're coming in July
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I use the 400 twice a day (Colinton Mains to RIE, then the reverse), and I regularly see one of the SJ66 batch going to Gyle Centre near the Fairmilehead crossroads at about 0735. I've seen another Madder & White 400 somewhere else (Colinton Mains Drive?) also only going to Gyle Centre. Don't know if they are un-timetabled, as I've never looked!
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I use the 300 to/from work and I share your feelings, the ex-Airlink, 4xx buses are useless on the peak 300's
(As is 427 with its Airlink luggage rack useless on peak time 3's
- missed the 300 on Thursday afternoon and with 40 mins til next one, took the 3..... only for it to be 427, with folk swinging from the rafters 
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I think the buses that you see in the morning do not stay on the 400 all day. There is one service that will start on the the 400 then end up on the 33 for the rest of the day. You can see bus 464 followed this pattern on Thursday.
https://lvf.io/#LRT|History 464
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Surprize surprize!
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman....-over-childish-private-plates-prank-1-4947113
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman....-over-childish-private-plates-prank-1-4947113
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The plates thing might have been a bit poor taste, but there's literally nothing less dignified than some of Edinburgh's opposition councillors getting into one of their self-important huffs.
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At the end of the day the MPs aren't running the Company, Mr Hall does!
Up until this point I've viewed Lothian in good light, the usual clean buses, reliable etc etc, everything that you would expect the directors to make sure is done!
I had only briefly met Hall last year, litterally said hello to him & kept walking, even then I always say its never right to judge by a cover, but he really must be an egotistical, childish fool to pool a stunt like this, even if it is only a small one on the grand scheme of things, I agree whole heartedly with there venture into WL but that's it..
Up until this point I've viewed Lothian in good light, the usual clean buses, reliable etc etc, everything that you would expect the directors to make sure is done!
I had only briefly met Hall last year, litterally said hello to him & kept walking, even then I always say its never right to judge by a cover, but he really must be an egotistical, childish fool to pool a stunt like this, even if it is only a small one on the grand scheme of things, I agree whole heartedly with there venture into WL but that's it..
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Yes they can
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Agreed. Doesn't reflect well on Rabbie's Trailburners either. Not sure why Worsnop decided he would write to Edinburgh Council instead of Lothian Buses unless he was angling for publicity too.
The quote from Cllr McLellan makes him appear very foolish too. "Effectively public money" is spent by any business involved in selling anything to the public. But given that the link is to a newspaper website, I wouldn't take any of this story too seriously.
Volvo, ADL and Lothian all didn't think the B8Ls needed a steering tag, so I wish the armchair experts would put a different record on, it's almost as bad as listening to the constant white noise about ironing board seats elsewhere on this forum!
Don't read it then. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
That they are, but it deserves its own topic is all.
Jordan Adam
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If it bothers you that much then don't read it. This topic is for everything relating to Lothian Buses so it's perfectly okay to discus vehicles in their fleet.
That would probably be a further waste of space, you'd find people would post in the new topic for a few days, it would die down and then a week later the exact same topic would be brought up here.
All I can say is that the tarmac at the corner of Gibson Street and University Avenue was destroyed by E500s turning on full left lock with a fixed tag. I’ve never seen that before or since and it hasn’t recurred since the route changed to Gemini/E400s. It’s also been reported here that the E500s destroy the tyres on their tag axles on a regular basis. The B8/XLB might be different but I doubt it
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