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Have you ever come across anyone in a workplace with a similar sense of entitlement as this?

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Pretty common for those who've never previously left academia. They're used to canteens at school, and at Uni, so (like other aspects of life), they've just never encountered "the real world" and dealing with real life such as advance planning your own lunch.

I can relate to that having retired last year after 40+ years in academia. But as a minion, I could always fend for myself. Uni campuses tend to have everything one needs to never need to leave. We had (well, it still has!) 15 coffee bars, one large refectory, one complex of posh eateries that could be booked for equally posh meeting, shops, postal services, laundry services and a catering service that will bring food to you / your meeting for official purposes. Lots of on-site accommodation too. In olden days we even had a senior eatery where tech staff were not allowed! Decades back we even had an on-site travel agent where staff had an on-demand counter and could simply say 'I want to go to x' and tickets would be provided. Companies can even be set up within the uni framework such that academics have access to office space, phone and Internet, and admin provision, with the uni being company secretary so HMRC and Companies House are sorted for you.
 
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How would you have explained things to him to dampen his arrogant sense of entitlement?
Good story!

The first question I'd ask is "why do you think there should be any sort of canteen / restaurant?".
Finding out why the person thinks this way will help you understand where they're coming from and thus be able to formulate a good answer.

For example, if he worked in a large warehouse (like a Tesco warehouse), they usually provide food. Tesco is a national chain, so it's easier/cheaper/classed as a "perk" for them to supply food in a canteen.
If he is now working in an independent factory, explaining why employing canteen people to cook/maintain a kitchen isn't going to work (IE, cost).
 

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Now I’m lucky if the kettle works in some mess rooms.
Ha ha ha!

Although don't Class 66's have a stove in the cab?
Maybe I mis-read / dreamed it.

I understand the reason behind it but can see the nay sayers now - "yes [Manager], I spadded as the sausages needed turning".
 

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My first workplace (late 80's) had three canteens:

1.One for manual workers.
2.One for middle management and clerical/office staff.
3.One for senior management that had waitress service, table cloths and a bar.
I forgot to ask, was this a steelworks site by any chance?
 

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As you'd expect, most workplaces these days expect you to bring your own food instead of providing it, and any workplaces that do provide meals on site in a canteen is a luxury.

A place I worked at three years ago, a factory, the canteen was nothing more than a room for people eating their packed lunches with microwaves at one side of the room. We have someone new joining us and after he has been given a tour of the factory, he has a confused look on his face, asking where the restraunt is. He is told that the factory does not provide cooked food on site and that employees must bring their own food.

This goes straight over his head for some reason as during one break, he goes searching everywhere for what he thinks is 'hidden restraunt', even endangering himself by going through doors to areas of the factory that are off limits to him and only certain employees are allowed to access all in search of a nonexistent restaurant.

He sits down in the canteen patiently and when a line manager comes to find him later on, demanding to know why he hasn't returned to the factory floor, he explains he is waiting for a waiter to come and take his order as he clearly thought there was some kind of to your table service in the canteen.

When the penny finally drops that there is no restraunt whatsoever, he starts kicking off, complaining what kind of workplace has no restraunt, it's worse than working in a slum house in the 19th century.

How would you have explained things to him to dampen his arrogant sense of entitlement?

Also, has anyone here got a similar tale to share?

This cannot be real, surely!
 

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Having read all these I have to say, I used to be head of security at a casino and casino's usually don't let staff leave the premises and so they provide chef cooked meals. Usually breakfast, lunch and dinner. We also had our fill of snacks, they provided bread, sliced meats and cheese, coleslaw etc, all in a big fridge in the staff room. We had a range of hot and cold drinks. We had kettles, toasters and sandwich makers.
 

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When I was a student I did a year out working for BR Computing at Furlong House in Nottingham (academic year 1992-3), and I don't remember an actual canteen but there was a trolley service that I used to get cheap sausage rolls and sandwiches from - a vague memory tells me that there was a canteen but I never went there.

The only other place I've worked at that had a canteen was a freight forwarding company at Dartford that I was at for a year around 2005.
 

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Having read all these I have to say, I used to be head of security at a casino and casino's usually don't let staff leave the premises and so they provide chef cooked meals. Usually breakfast, lunch and dinner. We also had our fill of snacks, they provided bread, sliced meats and cheese, coleslaw etc, all in a big fridge in the staff room. We had a range of hot and cold drinks. We had kettles, toasters and sandwich makers.
Did they provide English breakfast?
 

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Did they provide English breakfast?

I hope no company I work for ever does that (other than at an off-puttingly hefty fee so I'd only bother once a week maybe). A few weeks in and I'd not get through the door.

At the start of my career I was sent away for 6 months staying in Marriott hotels, where there was indeed a free buffet full English, that caused me to balloon by some 3 stone or so. Fortunately my business travel more recently has been outside the UK where breakfast tends to be a rather healthier continental buffet.
 

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I hope no company I work for ever does that (other than at an off-puttingly hefty fee so I'd only bother once a week maybe). A few weeks in and I'd not get through the door.

(At the start of my career I was sent away for 6 months staying in Marriott hotels, where there was indeed a free buffet full English, that caused me to balloon by some 3 stone or so)
I'm one of the lucky ones who would burn it off very quickly, with minimal effort. :D
 

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we have an on site restaurant, fish and chip shop, papa johns, Starbucks and an ice cream truck which whilst we do get a discount I would never have the time to eat there.
However, we do have a microwave, tea urn, toaster and sandwich maker in our department though. Complemented with a fridge and freezer. Plenty of cutlery and crockery too.
 

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Good, much nicer :) Never really liked anything eggy that looks like egg for some reason, I think possibly the white is too rubbery unless you mix it all up.

To be honest though, security only worked nights, so I only ever got dinner and snacks, the eggs may have been that fake nonsense. Occasionally I got invited to eat with management and their fare was waaay better.
 

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To be honest though, security only worked nights, so I only ever got dinner and snacks, the eggs may have been that fake nonsense. Occasionally I got invited to eat with management and their fare was waaay better.
Did management get luxuries like cavier or lobster?
 

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When I was a student I did a year out working for BR Computing at Furlong House in Nottingham (academic year 1992-3), and I don't remember an actual canteen but there was a trolley service that I used to get cheap sausage rolls and sandwiches from - a vague memory tells me that there was a canteen but I never went there.

The only other place I've worked at that had a canteen was a freight forwarding company at Dartford that I was at for a year around 2005.

There was indeed a canteen at Furlong house. There was a canteen at next office we moved to when FH closed. But when we moved to our current location we just got kitchens with microwaves and kettles. No trolley any more either, and no sandwiches (even though our other sites have sandwich vending machines :'( ).
 

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There was indeed a canteen at Furlong house. There was a canteen at next office we moved to when FH closed. But when we moved to our current location we just got kitchens with microwaves and kettles. No trolley any more either, and no sandwiches (even though our other sites have sandwich vending machines :'( ).
Did you sit there patiently waiting for the nonexistent trolley to arrive? ;)

Also, what was the food quality like in the canteens in your last two locations?
 

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Ha ha ha!

Although don't Class 66's have a stove in the cab?
Maybe I mis-read / dreamed it.

I understand the reason behind it but can see the nay sayers now - "yes [Manager], I spadded as the sausages needed turning".

:lol:

And of course the eggs needed tending too :lol:
 

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Canteens are especially welcome when people are on shift, or where the location is difficult for obtaining food (eg in the middle of nowhere, or conversely in the middle of an expensive part of the city). I suppose economies can be achieved if the central kitchen is also functional for others, e.g. in hospitals etc.

Don't forget that many places used to have an on site bar for staff to frequent, which would often be open at lunchtime as well...
 

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we have an on site restaurant, fish and chip shop, papa johns, Starbucks and an ice cream truck which whilst we do get a discount I would never have the time to eat there.
However, we do have a microwave, tea urn, toaster and sandwich maker in our department though. Complemented with a fridge and freezer. Plenty of cutlery and crockery too.

Do you work for an MSA (motorway service area) or such? It sounds like you're describing somewhere like LFE (Leicester Forest East)!
 

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. I suppose economies can be achieved if the central kitchen is also functional for others, e.g. in hospitals etc.
..

Hospitals tend to have different kitchens for staff and patients (or at least they used to).
 

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Do you work for an MSA (motorway service area) or such? It sounds like you're describing somewhere like LFE (Leicester Forest East)!

In my uni days I used to work at a MSA. For the first 2/3 years we got a free meal per shift at any of the onsite restaurants. Then it got changed to 70% discount instead. Staff had to eat in the staff room, managers got to sit front of house.
 

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Do you work for an MSA (motorway service area) or such? It sounds like you're describing somewhere like LFE (Leicester Forest East)!
Nope, a holiday park on the south/south west coast actually, we have a couple of bars too! Free use of the facilities at both our site and others within the brand is good too, sitting on a nice lounger by the outside pool on a nice hot summers day is glorious.
 

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Having read all these I have to say, I used to be head of security at a casino and casino's usually don't let staff leave the premises and so they provide chef cooked meals. Usually breakfast, lunch and dinner. We also had our fill of snacks, they provided bread, sliced meats and cheese, coleslaw etc, all in a big fridge in the staff room. We had a range of hot and cold drinks. We had kettles, toasters and sandwich makers.
I had a stint as a croupier for Grand Met and absolutely hated everything about the job, except the money (good) and a very few of my fellow croupiers, but, as you say, free food was plentiful. Boredom caused one to overeat, also the thought that you were getting one over on the management.
 
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