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LNER Azuma (Class 800/801)

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Makes you wonder why the design ever got off the drawing board as is. But now it has some sort of fairing as mentioned by someone earlier in thread surely would do the job to close the gap. Other electric units have the cabling in the same place, Class 390s, but half the gap. Fault down to the Government Dft department.
I am sure somebody had the idea in this forum the easiest solution would be to use longer cables progressively as the sockets get higher so that they all hang to the same vertical point where they could be fastened together. No ladder then.
 
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I am sure somebody had the idea in this forum the easiest solution would be to use longer cables progressively as the sockets get higher so that they all hang to the same vertical point where they could be fastened together. No ladder then.

That could be an idea but that's a lot of cables to be messed about with and then hoping all connect back correctly and the sets run ok, although if done whilst testing then any problems could be ironed out.
Something needs to be done though and quickly, if there is such a thing as quickly on our railways nowadays.
 

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The railcar and railcar connections on Japan's shinkansen are completely covered with "all-round hood".
"whole circumference holo" contributes to the quietness of the car interior and the reduction of air resistance between cars.
Of course, it can't be a ladder.
f the demands of the British government increase,
Hitachi may be considering adopting this technology in the UK.
 
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Makes you wonder why the design ever got off the drawing board as is. But now it has some sort of fairing as mentioned by someone earlier in thread surely would do the job to close the gap. Other electric units have the cabling in the same place, Class 390s, but half the gap. Fault down to the Government Dft department.
The ladder to heaven issue was discussed at some length earlier.
To summarise many previous trains including the paddedcellinos have similar jumpers so if there suddenly considered unsafe why wait till the trains are built for the safety nannys to reject them. Cant they read drawings or dont they get to see them?
Altough personally I dont see the need but would suggest a vertical plate about 6inches wide clipped onto the cables at there lowest point may do the trick.
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The railcar and railcar connections on Japan's shinkansen are completely covered with "all-round hood".
"whole circumference holo" contributes to the quietness of the car interior and the reduction of air resistance between cars.
Of course, it can't be a ladder.
f the demands of the British government increase,
Hitachi may be considering adopting this technology in the UK.

I thought they were exhausts when i first seen them
 

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This is Knaresborough, right?
Does Class 800 regular service stop at Knaresborough?
It's a very beautiful and impressive picture.

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Yes it’s Knaresborough, but no, they don’t stop. LNER services serve Harrogate via Leeds, so they don’t get as far as Knaresborough.
 

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This is Knaresborough, right?
Does Class 800 regular service stop at Knaresborough?
It's a very beautiful and impressive picture.

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It certainly is an impressive picture, but I don't believe there are any plans to have Azumas calling at Knaresborough in revenue service. This was probably another test run between Leeds & York via Harrogate for clearance purposes.
 

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Yes it’s Knaresborough, but no, they don’t stop. LNER services serve Harrogate via Leeds, so they don’t get as far as Knaresborough.
It certainly is an impressive picture, but I don't believe there are any plans to have Azumas calling at Knaresborough in revenue service. This was probably another test run between Leeds & York via Harrogate for clearance purposes.
Thank you for an answer.
The beautiful nature and historic streets along the British railway line are artistic and wonderful. I don't get tired of the buildings which I can feel the history in each town.

Class 800 still doesn't match those views.
The history of Class 800 Azuma is just beginning.
Class 43 HST has a lot of British memories and a long history.
 
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Just seen 5Q80 speeding through Maidenhead under its own power on the UM - test run or just a move ?
 

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This is Knaresborough, right?
Does Class 800 regular service stop at Knaresborough?
It's a very beautiful and impressive picture.

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It was a test run a few Sundays ago from York to Leeds return via Harrogate.
Presumably to confirm that if necessary sets working to Harrogate could return to Leeds via York if the need arose. Shown stopping at Cattal to pick up the token to progress down the single line to Knaresborough
 
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It was a test run a few Sundays ago from York to Leeds return via Harrogate.
Presumably to confirm that if necessary sets working to Harrogate could return to Leeds via York if the need arose.
I heard that Harrogate service will start on 6 flights a day from this December.
One round trip is fine.
London⇔Doncaster⇔Leeds⇔Harrogate⇔York⇔Doncaster(DEPO)
It is interesting when set.


I am sorry if this post is deleted.
 
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It's used in First Class on the ScotRail 385s too. The main thing is that there are different base and back cushions that massively affect comfort.

Which are utter garbage along with the totally unacceptable blinds.
 
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I agree they're rubbish, but they're better than the sham 2+2 First Class found all over the South East.

True.

I hate the blinds more than the seats. I'm pretty sure the blinds on the 385 close fully but not on the 800s. Stupid design.
 

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Harris, Nigel, ed. (26 September 2018). "Plan for Azuma's to Middlesbrough". Rail Magazine. No. 862. Peterborough: Bauer Media. p. 21. ISSN 0953-4563

TPE's 5CAR Nova3 is going to Middlesbrough.
I was wondering why the same 5CAR Class 800 wouldn't work.
 
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TPE's 5CAR Nova3 is going to Middlesbrough.
I was wondering why the same 5CAR Class 800 wouldn't work.
I don't know if there are any platform length issues on that route but I believe the main reason the MK5As were used as well as 802s for Transpennine was simply for expedience - i.e. there wouldn't be enough 802s available quick enough. That didn't ultimately work out as the CAF units are very delayed, but nonetheless the 802s are prioritised on the routes where they're most beneficial. That being said - there are separate threads for all the new TPE rolling stock.
 

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How do the LNER 800/801 units make the move between Hitachi North Pole (great Western) depot and their home lines? Is it via the North London Line, West London Line then reversing in using the Shepherds Bush north crossover?
The only other reasonable route I can see is via Acton Wells junction, but this would require a drag (I don't know if Acton Wells is wired)? If they go the WLL way, are they on OHLE the whole way?
Thanks.
 

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How do the LNER 800/801 units make the move between Hitachi North Pole (great Western) depot and their home lines? Is it via the North London Line, West London Line then reversing in using the Shepherds Bush north crossover?
The only other reasonable route I can see is via Acton Wells junction, but this would require a drag (I don't know if Acton Wells is wired)? If they go the WLL way, are they on OHLE the whole way?
Thanks.

It would only need a drag for the 801s, the 800s could switch over to diesel [assuming they switched over to electric] in Acton yard before going via the incline towards Acton Wells?
 

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The 801s have a 'get me home' diesel engine in one coach, do they not? So theoretically speaking, could this not be used for brief trips where OHLE is not present?
 

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Please could someone clarify how many seats a 9 carriage Azuma set has compared to a Class 91 set?
 

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9-car Azuma: 101 First; 510 Standard
5-car Azuma: 45 First, 254 Standard

Mk4 set: 128 First; 402 Standard
Is that enough first class seating for the Azuma's as I have noticed that it can get quite full?
 
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