It'll almost certainly still happen, don't forget even with the units being years late into service, whatever replaces them may also be years late, so they will still probably see a decent length of time in service.So is this project dead in the water for Northern.
If ever in service i can't see much reliability now with such a small fleet.
Let's have some ex GWR HST short sets into service!
Look how well that's going for Scotrail.
And where are they going to run them, given that the Alderley Edge/Stalybridge to Wigan NW services look likely to be running through to Southport?
Yes OK, I should have said diverted to Southport via Wigan Wallgate, but I think everyone knew what I meant! Still a valid question though.
I do not think it will be feasible to continue interworking the Alderley Edge and Stalybridge services, because it would make the turnaround times at Southport too short (Wigan to Southport is about 35 minutes).
In a Q&A with Wales Online, published on 16 June, TfW boss James Price said:
So TfW at least think that Northern is still first in line.
Which confirms what some of us have been saying for months - a botched, amateurish job full of ongoing issues. At least now it is from an official source some of the people who kept claiming the absolutely obvious was just speculation and everything was fine because there had been no official word of problems might reconsider and desist.
Thanks. That's quite local for me and of course trams never got to Todmorden.
Are you referring to the Chief Executive of Transport for Wales? I would have thought he would know quite a lot about it.
It's certainly indicative of ongoing issues. Botched remains to be seen as we've very little to go on, amateurish probably not, other than a very optimistic estimated completion date. It's still very much fair to criticise how long it's taken though. The marketing slogan was "goes anywhere... NOW", presumably in response to how long it was taking to get the 230s into service or how long it would take new DMUs to arrive. Despite that, the 230s are very much in service and it looks like the 195s might also beat the 769s to service too. From a timing point of view, it's a failure. As a valuable upcycling of surplus EMUs and an abatement to the DMU crisis, however, it's still very much welcome.
did you try them...? if so which were the best...?
did you try them...? if so which were the best...?
I suspect TfW and GWR 769s may well be in service before Northern's but this is probably partially a function of Northern having a huge amount of training to do and 195/331 being very behind too. (And lots of other training inc 170s and internal cascades...).