Delay Repay with tickets paid for by work

FrankieGTH · 25 Jun 2019

Hello there,

I'm going to claim for delay repay, but for the funds be put back into my employers account, as they paid for the ticket and it would obviously be wrong for me to personally gain when I didn't pay for the ticket.

If I put my personal details, but the companies bank account, will I encounter any issues? Would a payment bounce if the bank account is not in the name of the claimee? Or do I have to put the name/address of the company I work for? It's a business account, so it would a business name and obviously not a forename/surname.

Many Thanks

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paddington · 25 Jun 2019

Names on bank accounts are not checked at present, but there are plans to do so in the next year or so.

AnkleBoots · 25 Jun 2019

Some would say Delay Repay is not a refund of the ticket, but compensation payable to the traveller.

Puffing Devil · 25 Jun 2019

AnkleBoots said:
Some would say Delay Repay is not a refund of the ticket, but compensation payable to the traveller.

Agree - check with your manager and HR policies.

ForTheLoveOf · 25 Jun 2019

FrankieGTH said:
I'm going to claim for delay repay, but for the funds be put back into my employers account, as they paid for the ticket and it would obviously be wrong for me to personally gain when I didn't pay for the ticket.

You're the one who was inconvenienced so I see no reason why you shouldn't get to keep the compensation. Some companies may of course have policies otherwise aligned, but I would not want to work for a company that is happy to pocket the compensation TOCs offer to inconvenienced employees (especially considering travel time is often unpaid).

FrankieGTH said:
If I put my personal details, but the companies bank account, will I encounter any issues? Would a payment bounce if the bank account is not in the name of the claimee? Or do I have to put the name/address of the company I work for? It's a business account, so it would a business name and obviously not a forename/surname.

There will be no issue - you can put "Mickey Mouse" for all you like, as there are no checks in place that verify that the given name of the account holder is the same as the actual account holder. This is supposedly going to change at some point but there are still no firm dates for when.

Even if there were checking of this, there is nothing wrong with nominating compensation to be paid to someone else from the eyes of TOCs, and if you really want you could always ask for a cheque, or ask for payment into your own account and then pay it back to your employer.

gordonthemoron · 25 Jun 2019

I just claim it for myself

Bletchleyite · 25 Jun 2019

If I ran a business my personal take would be that if the delay caused work time to be wasted, work gets it, whereas if the delay caused the employee's time to be wasted (and they weren't being paid overtime for the delayed travel), they get it. Same for flight delay compensation.

However, it's all down to your employer's policy.

Qwerty133 · 25 Jun 2019

ForTheLoveOf said:
You're the one who was inconvenienced so I see no reason why you shouldn't get to keep the compensation. Some companies may of course have policies otherwise aligned, but I would not want to work for a company that is happy to pocket the compensation TOCs offer to inconvenienced employees (especially considering travel time is often unpaid).

There will be no issue - you can put "Mickey Mouse" for all you like, as there are no checks in place that verify that the given name of the account holder is the same as the actual account holder. This is supposedly going to change at some point but there are still no firm dates for when.

Even if there were checking of this, there is nothing wrong with nominating compensation to be paid to someone else from the eyes of TOCs, and if you really want you could always ask for a cheque, or ask for payment into your own account and then pay it back to your employer.

How do you know who was the one inconvenienced?
It is pretty hard to argue that the employee was personally inconvenienced more than the business if the delay made them late for an external meeting or important training. The only time it is unarguable that the employee was the most inconvenienced is if they were delayed on a journey home from which they would not be expected to continue work that day and for which they weren't being paid.

philjo · 25 Jun 2019

Our official travel policy wording (Civil service - Government agency)

You may retain any compensation you may be offered when travelling on official duty for example, as a result of a cancellation or an excessive delay or for downgrading of travel. If you accept such compensation (for example, a meal or overnight accommodation or payment in lieu of this) this should be taken into account and deducted from any subsequent expenses claims you make.

In my previous job at another Government agency, the policy was that all payments had to be repaid directly to the corporate travel agency used to book the tickets.

E100 · 25 Jun 2019

Certainly our company policy is if work time is wasted it's goes to the employer i.e. I was on the clock. Otherwise we are able to claim it. I.e normally outbound isn't claimed. Return is*

*Normally do full days away

_toommm_ · 25 Jun 2019

My work policy allows me to claim and keep it, as even though it's technically company time and company money, it's myself that's been inconvenienced.

yorkie · 25 Jun 2019

FrankieGTH said:
Hello there,

I'm going to claim for delay repay, but for the funds be put back into my employers account, as they paid for the ticket and it would obviously be wrong for me to personally gain when I didn't pay for the ticket.

If I put my personal details, but the companies bank account, will I encounter any issues? Would a payment bounce if the bank account is not in the name of the claimee? Or do I have to put the name/address of the company I work for? It's a business account, so it would a business name and obviously not a forename/surname.

Many Thanks

Was this on your way to work, you were unable to carry out the work, and work said they'd rather get compensation than you do the work?

If so check your employer's policy.

If it was on your way home or you had to work the time back anyway then I can't imagine why you'd not claim it as the compensation would be clearly be payable to you.

FrankieGTH · 25 Jun 2019

Thank you kind gentlemen (and ladies... if there was any) for your response.

I work for a small food production company of around 30 employees, my boss is the owner of the business which was recently bought out and watches every money spent, I missed a meeting as a result of the delay and was traveling during my 'working hours'. He was aware of why I missed a meeting and wants me to claim and the money be put back into the business which I have no quibbles with.

I was just checking if an account is a business account in a business name (i.e. no forename/surname) if there would be any problems with payment. It's complicated by the fact the business is now a subsidiary of a much larger business so I'm not sure of the name of the actual account it's going or the address of it. (i.e. if it's the 'small' business or the larger entity)

It sounds like if I put my details down the money will end somewhere!

Skie · 25 Jun 2019

You could request the refund be paid as rail vouchers, which could be used to pay for a future trip.

Accounting departments tend to be notoriously difficult to give money to!

yorkie · 26 Jun 2019

In that case I'd agree with requesting Rail Travel Vouchers as the company can use these against future travel expenses.

AM9 · 26 Jun 2019

Then there is the case of a worker travelling to do a specific task. If the job is started late because of travel delays, then the employee would need to stay later and suffer a delay in getting back home later. Unless there is a strict sign-in/out process, the employer might only notice the late arrival.

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