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https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/rail-spending-electrification-derby-birmingham-1761849

As usual with any government proposal - very short on any actual detail on how this would be achieved. No cost estimates and a timescale so far in the future that most will have forgotten it ever existed in a few months.

Just something to distract from the GTR/Network Rail and the Northern shambles (I notice the sound-bite "powerhouse" seems to have been dropped quietly now.

Since you are likely to get bombarded with pop-ups on the Derby Telegraph site, here is what it says.....
Id rather imagine that Northern Powerhouse is a bit of a tarnished brand following the recent Panorama program which alleged that fraudsters had lifted millions of pounds from foreign investors who believed that the property developments were backed by local authorities.
 
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There's two disused lines into Moor St which I presume is used for platform 5 and 6 if it ever gets reinstated but I can't see the space for platform 6? I mean the rail line into "platform 6" is quite literally at end of the boundary for Moor St with no space for the platform for the passengers to alight onto from a train.

There is room for the 6th platform even if would be narrow. If this doesn't meet any necessary standards there is also scope to shave a bit off P5 and move the tracks over to allow a wider P6.

If needed there is probably also room to build a 4x23m bay between platforms 2 and 3 at the cost of around 20m from P2.
 

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So, I've amended the sketch for the South Chord to be a single line. Of note here is that the crossing on the Platform 1 side can remain although, the points on the Hinckley side will need to re-loacted further east.
 

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Looking at the various photos of the Nuneaton tunnel I am wondering whether the tunnel now seen on the Ariel view is actually the same tunnel seen on the LNWR map. It looks to me like the approach from the Leicester side was slightly longer on the old LNWR chord than the space that is left now. Possible that original tunnel was not the cable tunnel seen here but actually went through that (new?) housing estate in the Coventry side where Anker Mill is shown on the original LNWR map.


I just can't see this coming off. It'd be likely to cost over £100 million and would it offer real cost benefits of it just cuts out a thirds worth of class 153 passengers having to cross the bridge at Nuneaton. Also, services using this chord probably wouldn't end up serving Nuneaton, which has economic implications then. Because if it did serve Nuneaton and change ends onto the chord to Coventry the time savings Vs making the connection at Nuneaton as now are going to be less worth it.

Someone asked about a potential curve North of Nuneaton to get across the WCML. I asked this on the forum when connect first put this idea in the press and it turns out it's all quarrying land up there with quite steep slopes and slag heaps etc privately owned.

A possible coventry chord flyover would probably be hugely expensive compared to a simple bay siding for reversal south west of the station. Also a flyover Coventry Chord is going to need serious elevation and a serious gradient to get to height from those Leicester and Coventry lines in a very short space. Is it doable?

Would it deliver significant economic benefits Vs cost vs just improving current Coventry services and Leicester services in the future XC franchise?

The only cheapish way I could see of doing it is build a short siding with a sort of refuge platform to the Birmingham side of Nuneaton station and have them change ends there and go back into the station onto the Coventry lines from there. One of these steel platform type things new stations have and a small section of track shouldn't be that outrageously expensive. The required signalling and paths though possibly could be.
 
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Just a quick note. I noticed this morning at Nuneaton that De-vegetating activities have been completed in the down Hinckley cess. My guess is that the project is now in GRIP 3 and they are preparing for cable diversion surveys etc to determine the possible options.
 

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..or it could just be that they’re deveging for signal sighting. :D:D

I just thought I’d mention it anyway
 

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Just a quick note. I noticed this morning at Nuneaton that De-vegetating activities have been completed in the down Hinckley cess. My guess is that the project is now in GRIP 3 and they are preparing for cable diversion surveys etc to determine the possible options.

What is GRIP 3?

It is nowhere near that!

Is it anywhere at all yet??
 

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Lilian Greenwood, MP for Nottingham South and chair of the Transport Select Committee reveals her support for the plan:
The need for investment is clear. In the past two years, rail journeys have grown more in the Midlands than anywhere else in the UK, however, while many commuter services are bursting at the seams, anyone who's taken the train between cities in the East and West Midlands, like I have, will know how slow, infrequent or indirect services can be. As a result, fewer than one in four journeys from Birmingham to Nottingham, Leicester and Derby are made by rail. Look north, and our shameful overreliance on private vehicles is thrown into sharper focus; half of those travelling between Manchester and Sheffield or Liverpool and York do so by train.
 

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Press release from the Midlands Connect website: http://midlandsconnect.uk/news-and-...overnment-is-urged-don-t-ignore-the-midlands/
£2 billion Midlands Rail Hub plans “the most ambitious for a generation” as government is urged: don’t ignore the Midlands


  • Midlands Rail Hub plans, submitted to government by Midlands Connect, outline up to £2 billion of new and improved infrastructure, to be completed between 2024-2033;
  • Upgrades make space for 24 new passenger trains an hour across the network, 85,000 seats a day in and out of Birmingham, and an estimated six million more journeys each year;
  • East-west travel transformed with Birmingham, Nottingham, Leicester, Derby, Coventry, Hereford & Worcester to benefit from faster and more frequent services;
  • 47 partner organisations back the plans, including local authorities, LEPs, chambers of commerce, HS2 and Network Rail;
  • West Midlands Mayor Andy Street urges government to invest in the proposals, as well as deliver HS2 in its entirety.
A £2 billion package of improvements to transform east-west connections on the Midlands’ rail network has been submitted to the government with a clear message from business and civic leaders: “Don’t ignore the Midlands”.

The Midlands Rail Hub outlines plans to build 15 pieces of new and improved infrastructure to enable 24 extra passenger trains every hour on the regional network, reduce journey times, make space to shift 4,320 lorries’ worth of freight from the road to the railway every day and supercharge the economy by bringing the East and West Midlands cloer together.

The plans, which can be completed in phases between 2024 and 2033, have been submitted to the government by Sub-national Transport Body Midlands Connect, in partnership with Network Rail and with the backing of 47 partner organisations including West Midlands Combined Authority, local authorities, LEPs, chambers of commerce, HS2 and Birmingham and East Midlands airports.

In the last two years, rail usage in the Midlands has grown faster than anywhere else in the UK[1], with growth in the last decade of 121% in the West Midlands and 37% in the East Midlands. However, without investment the region’s rail network can’t keep pace with this record demand, and many services between major towns and cities in the Midlands remain slow and infrequent.

Building more capacity into the railway will future proof the network for the next generation, with significant benefits for passengers, freight and the economy:

  • Space for 24 extra passenger trains an hour, including 20 to and from Birmingham Moor Street, taking pressure off Birmingham New Street, the busiest station outside London;
  • Two extra trains per hour in both directions between Birmingham-Leicester and Birmingham-Derby;
  • Plans to reinstate direct services between Coventry, Leicester & Nottingham for the first time since 2004, with two fast trains per hour in both directions;
  • Two extra commuter services per hour in both directions on the Camp Hill Line between Kings Norton-Birmingham Moor Street, via Hazelwell, Kings Heath & Moseley;
  • One extra train per hour in both directions between Birmingham-Nottingham, Birmingham-Hereford via Worcester, Birmingham-Cardiff and Birmingham-Bristol;
  • 85,000 more seats every day available in to and out of Birmingham, with an estimated six million more journeys in the Midlands per year;
  • 1.6 million more people will be brought to within one hour of the Midlands’ major towns and cities by public transport[2];
  • Plans increase access to HS2, with Birmingham Moor Street located next to the new high speed station at Curzon Street;
  • 36 additional freight paths a day, creating space to move 4,320 lorries’ worth of goods from road to rail every day, worth £22 billion a year.
Average journey time improvements:

  • Birmingham-Nottingham, from 72 to 59 minutes;
  • Birmingham-Hereford, from 85 to 65 minutes;
  • Leicester-Coventry, from 57 (indirect via Nuneaton) to 38 minutes (direct);
  • Nottingham-Coventry, from 99 to 63 minutes.
Proposed investment includes: (full list in notes to editors)

Bordesley Chords (2026-2033): Two new viaducts to link services from the South West and East Midlands in to Birmingham Moor Street station, including opening up extra platforms to provide extra fast services on those corridors, and link to HS2 at Curzon Street (estimated cost £900-£950 million)

Nuneaton Dive under, flyover or reversal (2026-2033): Reinstatement of a dive under or construction of a flyover of the West Coast Main Line at Nuneaton (or a reversal from Nuneaton station) to enable direct services between Coventry, Leicester and Nottingham (estimated cost of dive under/fly over £100-120m).

Leicester Corridor (by 2026); a series of incremental improvements allowing faster new and existing services from Birmingham to Leicester (estimated cost £150-200m);

Integration with HS2

Midlands Connect, alongside its partners and the business community, has repeatedly made the case for the delivery of HS2 in its entirety, alongside associated investment in the existing network.

The Midlands Rail Hub creates space for dozens of additional services to and from Birmingham Moor Street station each day. The project is fully integrated with a vision to redevelop the historic 1909 station, led by West Midlands Rail Executive. This vision, including a shared Station Square with the new Curzon Street station, is part of a “One Station” concept, which also includes better pedestrian access to nearby New Street station, ensuring passengers can move seamlessly between the traditional and high speed networks.

Environmental Benefits

Slow, indirect and infrequent rail services between big cities mean that most travellers make less environmentally friendly journeys by car instead[3]:

  • Leicester-Coventry – 1% by train, 99% by car;
  • Birmingham-Leicester – 13% by train, 87% by car;
  • Birmingham-Nottingham – 18% by train, 82% by car;
  • Birmingham-Derby – 22% by train, 78% by car.
On equivalent routes in the north of England, rail usage is significantly higher:

  • Manchester-Sheffield – 50% by train, 50% by car;
  • Manchester-Newcastle – 46% by train, 54% by car;
  • Liverpool-York – 51% by train, 49% by car.
Rail freight produces 76 percent less CO2 than the equivalent road haulage journey[4]. By making space for 36 new freight paths a day, the Midlands Rail Hub can take the equivalent of 4,320 lorries’ worth of goods off the road and on to rail every day, significantly reducing carbon emissions.

The Midlands Rail Hub comes with the backing of Midlands Connect’s partnership organisations, including West Midlands Combined Authority, local authorities, chambers of commerce and LEPs, as well as Network Rail, HS2 and Birmingham and East Midlands airports.

Sir John Peace, Chair of Midlands Connect, said:

“The Midlands Rail Hub is a cost-effective, evidence-led plan to upgrade our Victorian infrastructure to meet the demands of the future. These proposals capture the enormous economic potential of the Midlands, with 320,000 new jobs estimated by 2030, mainly in professional services firms who depend on good rail connectivity to attract skilled workers.

“This investment must happen alongside delivering HS2 in its entirety, from the West Midlands to the East Midlands and on to the north of England. The next Prime Minister of this country must not ignore the Midlands, the 10 million people who live here, or our £220 billion annual contribution to the UK economy. Now is the time for the government to prove to the Midlands it’s listening to us.”

West Midlands Mayor Andy Street said:

“The Midlands Rail Hub is a really important investment for the whole of the region – and it comes with my support and the support of the East Midlands. Rail has been a huge part of the Midlands’ success story, and we need this kind of investment if our network is to keep growing and supporting our economy.

“At around £2 billion, the Midlands Rail Hub is genuinely a bargain when you consider some of the projects that have already happened in London. The Secretary of State for Transport must persuade the Treasury to support this project to boost the region’s connectivity and with it, the region’s economy”.

Tim Shoveller, managing director for Network Rail’s North West & Central Region, said:

“Passenger numbers are set to rise by 12% in our region over the next five years. When realised the Midlands Rail Hub will transform rail travel for millions more passengers every year. We share our partners’ vision for the Midlands Rail Hub which will give passengers more choice and drive economic growth by better connecting towns and cities across the East and West Midlands.”

Mike Lyons, HS2 Programme Director for the West Midlands, said:

“It’s essential that investment in the existing rail network is planned and delivered alongside the work we are already doing. We’re working closely with Midlands Connect and Network Rail to secure the transformation in rail connectivity this region deserves. Both the Midlands Rail Hub and HS2 are about creating much needed new capacity, and allowing more people to travel more frequently to more destinations. These projects will supercharge the Midlands economy, and the region needs both if it is to reach its potential.”

Leicester City Mayor and Chair of Transport for the East Midlands (TfEM) Sir Peter Soulsby said:

“This project is a great opportunity to improve connectivity between the East and West Midlands, something which has sadly been overlooked for many years. It will provide brilliant direct rail links between Leicester and Coventry - the two biggest cities currently not connected by a direct rail service, and provide a true alternative to the car.

“The faster and more frequent trains between Leicester and Birmingham will help release the economic potential of the whole Midlands area, and will be greatly welcomed by all rail passengers.”

Giles Ellerton, BT Group regional director, Midlands & East Anglia, said:

"BT employs more than 11,000 people in the Midlands, and for our business to grow we depend on transport networks to grow with us. Faster, more frequent and more reliable services also gives us the flexibility to access a wider pool of talent from across the Midlands. If these plans go ahead it could transform a lot of people's journeys to work across the Midlands.”

Lindsey Durham, head of rail strategy at Freightliner Group, said:

“Freightliner is backing the Midlands Rail Hub because, for the first time, we have a long term strategy for rail infrastructure in the region. We’re moving everything from clothes and mobile phones to building supplies and industrial commodities on the railway, and by reducing bottlenecks and congestion for freight trains we can move more goods in an environmentally friendly way that supports the regional and the national economy.”

Lilian Greenwood, MP for Nottingham South and chair of the Transport Select Committee, said:

“Our people and businesses are suffering from poor connectivity and it’s time that government took action to bring the great economic centres of the Midlands closer together. The Midlands Rail Hub is a vehicle for change, it will change where we work, where we live and who we do business with, it will encourage us to make greener choices and allow the network to keep pace with growing demand. We must accelerate these plans to enable faster, more frequent journeys across our network and to make more space for freight trains that will transport goods UK-wide.”

Next Steps

Following the submission of the Midlands Rail Hub Strategic Outline Business Case to the Department for Transport, Midlands Connect has requested an additional £25 million in funding to bring the project to “Outline Business Case” stage of development, which includes specific scheme development and sequencing, a full overview of benefits, project designs, and a full risk assessment.

-ENDS-
 

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Interested how they're getting Brum-Nottingham down to under an hour.

It should be much quicker than what it is now given the express Brum-Derby train takes just over 30 minutes but obviously that heads North.

Wonder where it will fit in the paths given the two slower XCs will remain.
 

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Interested how they're getting Brum-Nottingham down to under an hour.

It should be much quicker than what it is now given the express Brum-Derby train takes just over 30 minutes but obviously that heads North.

Wonder where it will fit in the paths given the two slower XCs will remain.

Via Castle Donington ?
 

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Interested how they're getting Brum-Nottingham down to under an hour.

It should be much quicker than what it is now given the express Brum-Derby train takes just over 30 minutes but obviously that heads North.

Wonder where it will fit in the paths given the two slower XCs will remain.

Via Castle Donington ?
Taking 1D61, the 1219 Brum-Notts as an example, the timings for the fastest services appear to be as follows:
1219 dep BHM - 1235 arr TAM - 1236 dep TAM - 1247 arr BUT - 1248 dep BUT - 1300 arr DBY - 1308 dep DBY - 1327 arr NOT.

So that's an 8 minute turnaround at Derby which could easily be reduced to 4 minutes or similar (assuming no other timetables are affected).
 

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Taking 1D61, the 1219 Brum-Notts as an example, the timings for the fastest services appear to be as follows:
1219 dep BHM - 1235 arr TAM - 1236 dep TAM - 1247 arr BUT - 1248 dep BUT - 1300 arr DBY - 1308 dep DBY - 1327 arr NOT.

So that's an 8 minute turnaround at Derby which could easily be reduced to 4 minutes or similar (assuming no other timetables are affected).

Also not sure (for example) how well the timings take advantage of the new Derby layout, pathing issues aside.
 

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Another quote of interest:
We have four principal areas of focus:
  • New track and passing places (e.g. the construction of two chords at Bordesley)
  • Longer and restored platforms (e.g. reinstating the fourth platform at Snow Hill station, remodelling Kings Norton and Water Orton, two more platforms and stabling facilities at Moor Street)
  • Improved junctions and signalling
  • Some minor electrification

I do wonder what defines "minor electrification", as most "minor" routes (certainly within the West Midlands) seem to be wired up! Brum-Nuneaton, Brum-Derby, Nuneaton-Leicester etc. all seem pretty major to me...
 

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Taking 1D61, the 1219 Brum-Notts as an example, the timings for the fastest services appear to be as follows:
1219 dep BHM - 1235 arr TAM - 1236 dep TAM - 1247 arr BUT - 1248 dep BUT - 1300 arr DBY - 1308 dep DBY - 1327 arr NOT. So that's an 8 minute turnaround at Derby which could easily be reduced to 4 minutes or similar (assuming no other timetables are affected).
I'd go for a new connection via Chaddesden sidings to the Nottingham line, avoiding reversal at Derby entirely.
 

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Another quote of interest:

I do wonder what defines "minor electrification", as most "minor" routes (certainly within the West Midlands) seem to be wired up! Brum-Nuneaton, Brum-Derby, Nuneaton-Leicester etc. all seem pretty major to me...

Reinstating 4 track between Longbridge and Barnt Green (to allow additional fast services) would require the slow lines to be wired, which would I suppose be minor additional electrification, but I'm not sure what else would be necessary.
 

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Reinstating 4 track between Longbridge and Barnt Green (to allow additional fast services) would require the slow lines to be wired, which would I suppose be minor additional electrification, but I'm not sure what else would be necessary.

That's a really good call. I've never thought of that before, but makes bloody good sense.
 

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Given the existence of Toton HS2 station in the timeframe were talking about, why are these documents talking about Birmingham-Nottingham/Derby headline times via the classic lines as if they matter much?

Obviously there's intermediate markets, but surely the intercity journeys would be better via Toton (either trains reversing there - perhaps back portions? Or simply changing trains).
 

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Reinstating 4 track between Longbridge and Barnt Green (to allow additional fast services) would require the slow lines to be wired, which would I suppose be minor additional electrification, but I'm not sure what else would be necessary.

That's a really good call. I've never thought of that before, but makes bloody good sense.
It really does, especially considering the fact that the trackbed for the Down Gloucester Slow is still pretty much there from Cofton Jn to Barnt Green. The Up Glos Slow needs an upgrade to take faster trains (45mph max at the moment IIRC); perhaps a dive-under/flyover junction on the approach to Barnt Green?
 

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If the Midlands Hub is anything like the Northern Hub, a small part of it will be implemented, but that will do little to improve things because most of the other elements of the Hub will be either cancelled without announcement or indefinitely deferred.
 

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Leicester to Coventry direct won’t happen due to cost. That’s my thought on it anyway. Besides - even at peak times it wouldn’t fill a single 153. It’s a popular connection made at Nuneaton but 20-30 people an hour in the peaks will need a lot more switching to rail to make it worth it.

All it needs is good connection times at Nuneaton.

DeCourcey run an X6 fast (Via motorway) bus with double deckers. Clearly a market there.
 

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Leicester to Coventry direct won’t happen due to cost. That’s my thought on it anyway. Besides - even at peak times it wouldn’t fill a single 153. It’s a popular connection made at Nuneaton but 20-30 people an hour in the peaks will need a lot more switching to rail to make it worth it.

All it needs is good connection times at Nuneaton.

Your comment about demand from Leicester to Coventry being only enough for a 153 obviously means you didn't use the service when there was a direct service until 2007 (I think) from Coventry to Leicester (to Nottingham). It was very popular and would be more popular now. However, missing out principle stations such as Bedworth, Nuneaton and Hinckley would seem to dilute the business case somewhat given the enormous cost of re-instating the dive under or putting in a flyover. Given that Nuckle phase 2, and getting 2 trains an hour between Coventry and Nuneaton, is years late and likely not to happen for at least 3 more years, it all seems like 'pie in the sky'. They should first concentrate on getting 2/3 trains an hour between Nuneaton and Coventry plus more services Birmingham to Leicester which currently needs much more capacity.
 

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Given the existence of Toton HS2 station in the timeframe were talking about, why are these documents talking about Birmingham-Nottingham/Derby headline times via the classic lines as if they matter much?

Obviously there's intermediate markets, but surely the intercity journeys would be better via Toton (either trains reversing there - perhaps back portions? Or simply changing trains).
Birmingham to Toton is about 20min, but changing there and backtracking to Derby would take longer than the current journey time. Nottingham is more finely balanced but a direct train via Castle Donington might still beat a change at Toton depending how good the connection time there is, as well as avoiding the hassle of changing.

My suggestion would be to run half-hourly Birmingham-Nottingham via Castle Donington and run a commuter service between Birmingham and Derby (additionally to the existing Voyager service) instead of terminating it at Tamworth as has previously been suggested.
 

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Your comment about demand from Leicester to Coventry being only enough for a 153 obviously means you didn't use the service when there was a direct service until 2007 (I think) from Coventry to Leicester (to Nottingham). It was very popular and would be more popular now. However, missing out principle stations such as Bedworth, Nuneaton and Hinckley would seem to dilute the business case somewhat given the enormous cost of re-instating the dive under or putting in a flyover. Given that Nuckle phase 2, and getting 2 trains an hour between Coventry and Nuneaton, is years late and likely not to happen for at least 3 more years, it all seems like 'pie in the sky'. They should first concentrate on getting 2/3 trains an hour between Nuneaton and Coventry plus more services Birmingham to Leicester which currently needs much more capacity.
Birmingham to Leicester needs to focus on longer trains not more trains. Unless something can be done to remove the level crossing at Narborough, which would be extremely difficult considering existing buildings and forthcoming development, there is no capacity to increase services on the line without causing major issues for road traffic.
 

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Birmingham to Toton is about 20min, but changing there and backtracking to Derby would take longer than the current journey time. Nottingham is more finely balanced but a direct train via Castle Donington might still beat a change at Toton depending how good the connection time there is, as well as avoiding the hassle of changing.

Toton is to be linked to the classic rail network, and HS2 claim they are aiming for 10 minute journey times from Toton to both Nottingham and Derby. That doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility given the short distances, although I'm sure it would require some investment on the existing line. If they achieve that, then, depending on connection times, Birmingham to Nottingham via Toton will still be a lot faster than anything you could get on the classic network. Not only that, but with the likely tram extension and bus links, people whose final destination is in the West of Nottingham (such as the University) may well find that Toton is just as convenient as Nottingham as a station to arrive at.

Birmingham to Derby is more evenly balanced: It would be about the same time either way.

HS2 said:
The East Midlands hub station at Toton will be one the best served stations on the high speed network.

Up to 14 high speed trains an hour will leave Toton. Midlands Connect have plans to connect the hub to major centres in the region including Nottingham, Derby, Leicester and East Midlands Airport.

This includes proposals for the hub station to link to existing motorway, classic rail and tram networks. Derby and Nottingham are working together on an ambition that envisage a journey time of just 10 minutes from their city centres to the HS2 hub, and better link the two cities in the process
 

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DeCourcey run an X6 fast (Via motorway) bus with double deckers. Clearly a market there.

Not any more. Only single deckers nowadays, and the frequency reduced to just every 90 mins. Never looks at all busy.
 

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Toton is to be linked to the classic rail network, and HS2 claim they are aiming for 10 minute journey times from Toton to both Nottingham and Derby. That doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility given the short distances, although I'm sure it would require some investment on the existing line. If they achieve that, then, depending on connection times, Birmingham to Nottingham via Toton will still be a lot faster than anything you could get on the classic network. Not only that, but with the likely tram extension and bus links, people whose final destination is in the West of Nottingham (such as the University) may well find that Toton is just as convenient as Nottingham as a station to arrive at.

Birmingham to Derby is more evenly balanced: It would be about the same time either way.
Fair enough if they get a link for through trains, including electrification into Nottingham of course, but if that was happening wouldn't it get a mention in a strategy for improving East-West Midlands links? The fastest Nottingham-Derby time is about 22min, so I doubt Nottingham-Toton is achievable in under half that considering that it has a similar amount of slow running around Trent.

I agree the tram provides connectivity to western Nottingham but the city centre needs to keep its transport links too.
 
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