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Class 172 Refurbishment/Snow Hill Capacity

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sufian123

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ECS Worcs LMD - Sbj then 07:09 Stourbridge-Whitlocks & Rtn to Stourbridge. Then works a semi fast (stops Cradley,Rowley & Smethwick only) to Snow Hill. Goes ECS to Tys & the. Comes out again in the evening rush hour for the 16:32 Bsw - Whitlocks,17:06 to Stourbridge,18:07 to Whitlocks then ECS to Worcs LMD

Many thanks. I’ve seen that as 170/5 couple of weeks ago. That’s why I asked
 

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As predicted though, the new through service is suffering from delays on the Cov - Leam stretch.

The single track sections I expect don't help, although 2026(or was it 2027?) it'll be redoubled, although might there be a chance it'll happen sooner?.

Just out of interest, how come is there no through service on a Sunday between NUN and LMS?.
 

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The single track sections I expect don't help, although 2026(or was it 2027?) it'll be redoubled, although might there be a chance it'll happen sooner?.

Just out of interest, how come is there no through service on a Sunday between NUN and LMS?.

Patching issue.
 

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2H69 15:16 NUN - LMS only got as far as Chilvers Coton Junction before returning to Nuneaton (it had left 17 late), now running as 5H00 16:45 NUN - LMS.

Hope it's nothing serious.
 

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https://www.westmidlandsrailway.co....sy-commuter-services-and-birmingham-snow-hill
West Midlands Railway said:
Changes will be made to of some of West Midlands Railway’s busiest commuter trains to and from Birmingham from next week, following feedback from passengers.

The biggest timetable shake-up in over 10 years has been good news for many rail passengers with direct services to more destinations, faster journeys on many routes and more seats to and from Birmingham everyday. Further changes to be introduced from Tuesday 9 July will see additional carriages operating some of the busiest peak time services to and from Birmingham Snow Hill.

West Midlands Railway will be reallocating the number of carriages on the 1713 departure from Birmingham Snow Hill to Worcester Shrub Hill from Tuesdays to Fridays. A five carriage train will be used to operate this service – an increase from the four carriage train used since the timetable change in May.

The 1703 and 1723 departures either side of this service saw an increase in carriages with the new timetable, meaning that an additional four carriages now operate between Birmingham and Stourbridge between 1700 and 1730 on weekdays, compared to before the timetable change.

Another improvement comes with the reintroduction of five carriages on the 0708 departure from Leamington Spa to Birmingham from Tuesdays to Fridays.

The train operator will be providing the additional capacity by reallocating carriages from other services, based on passenger counts and demand elsewhere on the Snow Hill lines.*

Richard Brooks, customer experience director for West Midlands Railway, said: “The new timetable introduced in May represented the biggest change for over a decade. While passengers have been adjusting to the new timetable, we appreciate that some services have been incredibly busy. We have been working hard to see what further improvements could be made and we are confident we now have a solution for our passengers.

“In response to particular feedback about the 0708 service from Leamington Spa to Birmingham and the 1713 service from Birmingham Snow Hill to Worcester, we didn’t want to make any rushed decisions that may have had unintended consequences elsewhere on the network. We have therefore spent a number of weeks assessing what could be done to reallocate some carriages and we believe our solution will deliver consistent performance and benefit passengers on some of our busiest evening services.

“We want to thank all our passengers for their patience while the new timetable has been bedding in and we will continue to look at making further refinements to improve our timetable going forward.”

ENDS

For further information on this release, call our press office on 03300 955150 or email [email protected]


Notes to editors

*The following changes will be made to train formations from Tuesdays to Fridays from Tuesday 9 July onwards to accommodate additional carriages some of the busiest West Midlands Railway commuter services to and from Birmingham Snow Hill:

Morning peak: Tuesday – Friday

  • 0708 Leamington Spa to Kidderminster: 5 carriages (previously 4 carriages)
  • 0741 Stratford-upon-Avon to Birmingham Snow Hill: 3 carriages (previously 6 carriages)
  • 0749 Kidderminster to Stratford-upon-Avon: 4 carriages (previously 3 carriages)
  • 0807 Whitlocks End to Kidderminster: 5 carriages (previously 4 carriages)
Evening peak: Tuesday – Friday

  • 1623 Kidderminster to Stratford-upon-Avon: 4 carriages (previously 3 carriages)
  • 1627 Stourbridge Junction to Dorridge: 3 carriages (previously 6 carriages)
  • 1646 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill: 5 carriages (previously 4 carriages)
  • 1657 Stourbridge Junction to Stratford-upon-Avon: 4 carriages (previously 3 carriages)
  • 1728 Dorridge to Worcester shrub Hill: 3 carriages (previously 6 carriages)
Looks like they're removing one of the 6 car diagrams


Quite a slam for the 0741. That was *very* popular into Birmingham before the May timetable [not been at that time since as uni exam season didn't need me to go in at that time!], the one 8 minutes behind remains at 6, so hope there is enough space.
 

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I was at Rowley Regis at approx 1445 today when I saw an ECS working. From the different liveries there must have been at least three units. I was in the carpark so cannot give any more details. According to RTT this is a regular Sunday working from Worcester to Tyseley.
 

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172 214 is in service today and currently on 10:31 Birmingham Moor Street to Stratford-upon-Avon. Looking good. Will post some more photos and a link to a video later.
 

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Looks like the /0's! Although the gearboxes are so much smoother on the 2/3 subclass.
 

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Video here:

Thank goodness they didn't reconfigure the seats to like they are on the /0s! I can finally sleep!! Still plenty of airline style seats... Phew!
One of the 172s (don't know the number) did have Bullring vinyls on the toilet before the refurb. Can't help but think it might be the same train.
 

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Thank goodness they didn't reconfigure the seats to like they are on the /0s! I can finally sleep!! Still plenty of airline style seats... Phew!

I know, my friends all prefer the layout of the /0s but when you’re travelling alone on a busy train it is useful to have the airline style seats.
 

HLE

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Why could that be...?

Some sort of mod carried out to the 2/3 subclass gearboxes years ago, that hasn't happened on the /0.

That was the rumour that was circulated before the /0 entered service in May.
 

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172220 just arrived at Ilford a few moments ago for.its refurb.
 
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