They could even bring in new buses and don't brand them for the purpose of using them on anything. On the subject of the 9 getting them could they challenge Mcgills again by extending from Paisley to Johnstone or Linwood? Adding new buses and a route change could really challenge Mcgills
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AndrewTaylor95
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The Pink E200s are the exact same colour as the 65 smaller E200s, I think they were maybe for that route and decided at last minute they didn't really need the extra seats and just ordered the smaller ones for the 65
pink E200s were painted by mistake. Costs money to be repainted so they have remained this colour until they are placed on an branded route which might be the 9/9a .... no point painting them standard and then again branded.
Paintshop at caley back to norm and latest vehicle painted is B7RLE 69116.
Paintshop at caley back to norm and latest vehicle painted is B7RLE 69116.
duffers2324
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speaking of the E200's and even the some of pink branded ones i have seen pop up on the M3 more of late although i am assuming they are testing out the buses to see how easy or hard it may be to get nearer full size buses round the schemes that the M3 serves as the electric buses are coming soon for it.
Yeah , i think loads get train to Central then Subway , i guess the bus is not attractive to students . That said the 4 beats a 6 out of town heading to the Southside .Find it a faster bus out of town.
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really? considering all their service vehicles are already e200mmcs.
Yes they run a service to Glasgow fort on sundays only but will be operating Sunday service today as it’s fair Monday
Thanks for confirming
during peaks these vehicles are mostly packed. Would need to introduce new service but doubt it
Yeah First always seem to drop the ball on their express buses with exception of the 1s
JumpinTrainz
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I always think First should be using either coaches or a higher spec model of bus on their express services - similar to that of the airport 500 buses. It seems odd that they use standard suburban buses that are used on inner city services. Surely all that motorway work must take its toll. Also looks at Stagecoach they’re offering coaches.
Jordan Adam
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With the likes of the X1, X11, X3, X85, X87 etc coaches don't make sense as they're not that long routes, high spec coach seated buses would be perfect. However with the X35/X36/X37 i'd agree that coaches of some sort would be preferable, although likewise even just a high spec coach seated bus would be good, that way you can keep the low entry element. The Panther LE would be a nice meet in the middle, however i don't think these are practical vehicles at all for a company to buy.
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Coaches would never work on the 1 group of services as they provide a lot of local traffic within the Vale of Leven, Clydebank and the Drum. The seats are ok but they could be better.
When First took over the X11 from Hutchison of Overtown they were running coaches but due to an increase in patronage they were replaced by double decks transferred from South Yorkshire. Now the Gold branded E400s are running on it.
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Seems a nice idea and would introduce a new market from Lanarkshire but it could also prove to be rather frustrating for passengers travelling to Glasgow.
GaryMcEwan
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The 'Xpress' routes aren't even that express. The X3 takes an age from Cumbernauld into Glasgow, and the X85/X87 aren't that much better.
It’s a good idea in theory but would add at least 10 minutes onto the journey time and given that the services are often held up on the m8 in the morning then passengers for Glasgow would not be happy about this. However off peak I think they could both easily service the fort when the motorway is quiet and with maybe certain peak buses going in but not all.
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How many people in Cumbernauld actually use the X3 to Glasgow? It's mainly for Moodiesburn, Chryston and Muirhead passengers. I'm sure you'll get reasonable local traffic within Cumbernauld but for travel to Glasgow you're better taking the X36 or the Stagecoach X25.
The X85 and X87 are very quick from Kirkie and Lenzie to the city but it's a long journey from Campsie no matter what route you take. The old 175 took about an hour as it went through Bishopbriggs, Balgrayhill Road and Springburn.
Could even have them as separate services. Keep the current X1 and X11 then have new buses from Hamilton and Motherwell
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X3 has very little though passengers unless you want a First Glasgow dayticket, even then your Faster with the X35/37. Combined it gives those places mentioned a 15min fast service into Glasgow.
It would be better to use divert into the fort to test the waters off peak. Monklands had a bus to the Fort, even tried it once, but it took 50mins and went all over the place, It just wasn't worth it. Dunn? tried a service from Cumbernauld but again it failed.
Re express services between Cumbernauld-Glasgow... Cumbernauld has 3 railway stations, Cumbernauld, Greenfaulds on one side of the town and Croy on the other side of the M80. Both Greenfaulds and Croy benefit from large car parks (Croy has 700+ spaces as is usually full Mon-Fri). Between all these stations there are 6 trains per hour to Queen St. So the trains have the competitive advantage in terms of travelling time - some trains take just 12 mins to or from Croy, although if you don't live near to the stations or dont have a car then the bus might be better.
Plus the trains have the benefit of big recent investment - electrification on both routes and new trains, and in the case of Croy longer trains too bringing more seats and capacity. And in the peaks the M80/M8 can be problematic in terms of congestion.
I think there was a proposal to review building another station at Abronhill but I dont think it got beyond that.
Plus the trains have the benefit of big recent investment - electrification on both routes and new trains, and in the case of Croy longer trains too bringing more seats and capacity. And in the peaks the M80/M8 can be problematic in terms of congestion.
I think there was a proposal to review building another station at Abronhill but I dont think it got beyond that.
One was lying a few days ago rubbed down but don't know fleet number etc. Noticed it when I was leaving looks like paintwork prep but not sure
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Leyland Atlantean LA1285 could've been one of the last 70's buses to be withdrawn or some of the Leyland Leopard Y-types from Motherwell that were exported to Cuba.
Last 80s bus would've been an AH Volvo Citybus. Unsure of the fleet no.
Doubt it they would’ve needed to be registered by now.