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aleggatta

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Are plug sockets being fitted any time soon ?
very little chance of that I would have thought... It wasn't announced as part of the refresh programme, with most of the areas being covered amounting to a general deep clean and paint (they aren't even doing a CCTV upgrade, which was part of the 375 refurb programme!). As much as it would be nice to have like for like facilities on the same class of train, if it ain't in the franchise agreement, its not gonna happen.
 

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Someone mentioned it on here

The metro 377s have them fitted although of course they are newer

Meanwhile the 313s look shabbier than ever with filthy seats windows that are misted up and visible mould on the window seals but it's fine as they have wifi
 

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very little chance of that I would have thought... It wasn't announced as part of the refresh programme, with most of the areas being covered amounting to a general deep clean and paint (they aren't even doing a CCTV upgrade, which was part of the 375 refurb programme!). As much as it would be nice to have like for like facilities on the same class of train, if it ain't in the franchise agreement, its not gonna happen.
I imagine a new franchise might decide to standardise the various 377 interiors
 

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I stumbled across this video the other day -
- and something didn't quite add up. It shows various Southern services calling at Barnham, but if you skip to 7:27 you will see a unit numbered 377 165 (paired up with 377 410) on a Bognor Regis service. I thought there were only 64 377/1 units (101 - 164)? Was this unit sent off somewhere else as I've never personally seen or heard about it.

Another interesting point is that, unlike all the other younger 377/1 units (377 140-164), this unit has the smaller circular head and tail lights.
 

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... It shows various Southern services calling at Barnham, but if you skip to 7:27 you will see a unit numbered 377 165 (paired up with 377 410) on a Bognor Regis service. I thought there were only 64 377/1 units (101 - 164)? Was this unit sent off somewhere else as I've never personally seen or heard about it.
377165 has been a number regularly used in the past whenever they temporarily shorten a four car unit (or lengthen a 3 car)? EMU set numbers are not set in stone, it’s the individual vehicle numbers that are the primary registration in the rolling stock library.
The forum search finds records of 377165 back to 2009!
 

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I stumbled across this video the other day -
- and something didn't quite add up. It shows various Southern services calling at Barnham, but if you skip to 7:27 you will see a unit numbered 377 165 (paired up with 377 410) on a Bognor Regis service. I thought there were only 64 377/1 units (101 - 164)? Was this unit sent off somewhere else as I've never personally seen or heard about it.

Another interesting point is that, unlike all the other younger 377/1 units (377 140-164), this unit has the smaller circular head and tail lights.
Looking at the MOSL of '165' shows a coach number relating to 162 and other Coach numbers appear to relate to a 377/3 (starting 65 but struggled to read the rest on my phone)
 

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I stumbled across this video the other day -
- and something didn't quite add up. It shows various Southern services calling at Barnham, but if you skip to 7:27 you will see a unit numbered 377 165 (paired up with 377 410) on a Bognor Regis service. I thought there were only 64 377/1 units (101 - 164)? Was this unit sent off somewhere else as I've never personally seen or heard about it.

Another interesting point is that, unlike all the other younger 377/1 units (377 140-164), this unit has the smaller circular head and tail lights.

Must have been some damage...... not sure on the history but 377165 now currently doesnt exist and presumable has been disbanded back into its proper units.

377442 is the handryer fire unit which is currently missing its MOSL and is running around as a 3 car 377342.

there is a disbanded 377 currently at selhurst depot, one coach i think has gone to derby for repair. it was damaged in a axlebox/dragging brake fire at london bridge. Cna't remember the number though
 

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I can't remember the details without going back and looking everything up but I think it's a 377/3 with an additional MSO from a unit that has been disbanded due to accident/fire and undergoing repairs

377165 has been a number regularly used in the past whenever they temporarily shorten a four car unit (or lengthen a 3 car)? EMU set numbers are not set in stone, it’s the individual vehicle numbers that are the primary registration in the rolling stock library.
The forum search finds records of 377165 back to 2009!

Looking at the MOSL of '165' shows a coach number relating to 162 and other Coach numbers appear to relate to a 377/3 (starting 65 but struggled to read the rest on my phone)

Must have been some damage...... not sure on the history but 377165 now currently doesnt exist and presumable has been disbanded back into its proper units.

377442 is the handryer fire unit which is currently missing its MOSL and is running around as a 3 car 377342.

Thanks for the replies guys. It's a new one on me!

there is a disbanded 377 currently at selhurst depot, one coach i think has gone to derby for repair. it was damaged in a axlebox/dragging brake fire at london bridge. Cna't remember the number though
I think this was 377 309.
 

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Units ending in 42 seem to be unlucky. 377442 (currently 377342) was the unit with one coach damaged by the hand dryer fire, and 377142 went straight through the buffers at Victoria a few weeks back!
 

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The scope of the works must vary
On a 377 with the high density configuration with new vestibule carpets resprayed fittings and the main carpets steam cleaned but seat covers haven't been replaced
Perhaps there wasn't enough time to do everything
 

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Must have been some damage...... not sure on the history but 377165 now currently doesnt exist and presumable has been disbanded back into its proper units.

377165 as operated in 2009 was formed 68418-74818-77162-68218 - ie one car from 377162 inserted in 377318 to form a four car.

Remember that 3-car units still operated on their own on South Coast services at the time so probably better to maintain the size of the 4-car fleet if vehicle 77162 was available.
 
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