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22-07-19: WCML goes to hell in a handcart

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I'm writing this from the 17:59 VT service to Euston.

The wires down at Garstang have thrown the WCML into disarray.

I boarded the 13:03 Penrith ex-Glasgow train to London at 14:15, arrived in Preston at 16:20, waited onboard with the rest of the train - no announcements were made. Over forty minutes later, we finally got one, curt and completely unapologetic, telling us "This train will now be going to Glasgow Central". An entire trainload of people was evacuated. We ended up on an ex-Glasgow that then left an hour later; with more than two trainloads inside once we left. Even now, we're stuck at Crewe, waiting for a...crew.

Virgin's handling of the incident up until Preston was exemplary, including frequent frank and helpful announcements; and inserting a stop at Oxenholme for one young passenger who'd got separated from his folks at Penrith during a long layover. (Shout out to Kieran at Penrith.) At Preston, things went downhill without an announcement for so long; no apology, nothing about how to get refunds over the telecom for the uninformed. I hadn't expected better, but in a way it's disappointing. But, hey, we've had some free crisps and water distributed among us (buffet now empty), so it's not exactly North Korea.

Are you snarled up in the West Coast fiasco? If you're reading this, and have nothing better to do... I've heard reports of northbound passengers at Preston waiting eight hours for a service; an exaggeration, surely?

A brief adjunct: while I've been typing this, we've started moving again.
 
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Preston station unimpressed me with their lack of major incident management a while ago. Clearly not much changed :)
It wasn't the station so much as onboard the train. But staff had a negligible presence at Preston when we were changing, and were outnumbered several times over by BTP officers. I think I saw one red jacket.

At one point, on the new train, we'd waited half an hour for information; the time of departure from Preston was on the door, so people outside the train knew much more about it than we did.
 

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It’s not just at the northern end either. A lineside fire around Watford hasn’t helped matters. I’m on the 19:07 Euston-Liverpool which left 13 late, dropped time sat outside Milton Keynes as stuck behind the 19:10 Holyhead, and to cap it all, a bird strike has damaged a window in coach c, s
 

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Attitude towards Virgin customer service rapidly disintegrating. Overhead guard tell disgruntled pax that "We have the highest passenger satisfaction levels in the country". Because that's how you help get people home: treat them like they're wrong to ask.
 

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It’s not just at the northern end either. A lineside fire around Watford hasn’t helped matters. I’m on the 19:07 Euston-Liverpool which left 13 late, dropped time sat outside Milton Keynes as stuck behind the 19:10 Holyhead, and to cap it all, a bird strike has damaged a window in coach c, s
You couldn't make it up! Not even Sod's Law would go that far. Sorry to hear of your delays, PB. (And the poor bird, too.)
 

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This is already being discussed in a previous thread however a couple more observations.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/euxton-wcml-overhead-wire-problems-22-july-2019.186716/

Having been caught up in this on the way to Oxenholme:
-Information distribution at Preston seemed to be lacking. The train I left on was pretty much empty with people still cuing up for the rail replacement buses when services had resumed (I walked through 3 carriages of a 5 coach Voyager and saw at most 50 people such a service is usually busier off peak.)
-Staff on the ground trying there best but it did see that the basic issue was crews being out of place. Also saw a friendly BTP presence giving good advice (including about delay replay and ticket restrictions being lifted) and helping VT staff with getting wheelchair passengers on and off services.
-I overheard a VT manager on the ground effectively deciding which train would depart next by whether crew was available which is absolutely the right thing to do. However, there were only 2 announcements made before the already hugely delayed (175 mins when I got off) service was sent not even close to full from platform 6 whilst a train was full and standing on platform 2 awaiting a driver with no ETA (passengers I talked to had already been sat for over an hour) . These passengers could have caught the service if announcements had been made on the full and standing service but with only platform announcements didn't have the chance.
 

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there were only 2 announcements made before the already hugely delayed (175 mins when I got off) service was sent not even close to full from platform 6 whilst a train was full and standing on platform 2 awaiting a driver with no ETA (passengers I talked to had already been sat for over an hour) . These passengers could have caught the service if announcements had been made on the full and standing service but with only platform announcements didn't have the chance.
Interesting, thanks for sharing. When was this? The Plat. 6 train might've been mine...

Glad to hear BTP being helpful and stepping in to ease overloads.
 

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Interesting, thanks for sharing. When was this? The Plat. 6 train might've been mine...

1716 1Z65 The very much delayed 1454. A service left Platform 5 at 1649 but my connection was delayed enough that I didn't get it.
 

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1716 1Z65 The very much delayed 1454. A service left Platform 5 at 1649 but my connection was delayed enough that I didn't get it.
Not mine then, cheers.

AND THERE’S A TWIST IN THE TAIL! A “massive signal failure” at Euston strands us at Cheddington for the foreseeable future...
 
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