Trivia: Biggest difference in frequency on a Sunday compared to weekdays and Saturdays

ValleyLines142 · 22 Jul 2019

Not sure if this has been done before but I was thinking about what services have a considerably different service on Sundays compared to in the week and/or on Saturdays.

For me, I think the Penarth Line is a good contender here, every fifteen minutes during the week but only two hourly on a Sunday and only six departures a day.

Are there any services that have a relatively frequent service in the week but have no service on Sunday's?

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Rebus · 22 Jul 2019

Holton Heath on the Waterloo to Weymouth line (located between Poole and Wareham). One service per-hour each way during the week & Sats. Looks like no Sunday service at all now?

tomwills98 · 22 Jul 2019

DanTrainMan185 said:
Not sure if this has been done before but I was thinking about what services have a considerably different service on Sundays compared to in the week and/or on Saturdays.

For me, I think the Penarth Line is a good contender here, every fifteen minutes during the week but only two hourly on a Sunday and only six departures a day.

Are there any services that have a relatively frequent service in the week but have no service on Sunday's?

Coryton and Maesteg line have no Sunday service yet. Vale of Glamorgan is like Penarth in that respect dropping to one per two hour in each direction

Bob M · 22 Jul 2019

Victoria to Southampton: no service on Sundays.

185143 · 22 Jul 2019

Buckenham-Sundays only!

dk1 · 22 Jul 2019

185143 said:
Buckenham-Sundays only!

Saturdays too!

Wilts Wanderer · 22 Jul 2019

Newton St Cyres on the Barnstaple line gets a significantly BETTER service on Sundays compared to during the week. Something to do with a certain pub I believe.

dk1 · 22 Jul 2019

Stopping trains Great Yarmouth - Berney Arms/Reedham has a significantly better service on Sundays but unfortunately the line is temporarily closed. Also whilst on the subject of the Wherry Lines Summer Sundays sees a better daytime frequency at Norwich-Lowestoft intermediate stations (except Brundall Gardens) than Monday-Saturdays as all the trains are stoppers.

SN1 19-5 · 22 Jul 2019

Bryn to Wigan NW/ Liverpool. Half hour in the week. No service on Sundays. I think that this is cas of some sort of mashup between MPTE and GMPTE. Bryn hasn't had a Sunday service since I arrived there in 1978. Dunno if it had one before.

Bletchleyite · 22 Jul 2019

Obviously there's any line with no Sunday service. I recall being surprised the Barton-on-Humber branch does have a Sunday service!

It used to be the case in the early 2000s that Marple got 3tph on weekdays but only the Sheffield locals (approx 0.5tph but with some longer gaps) on Sundays, but I think that's now been resolved.

Glenn1969 · 22 Jul 2019

Huddersfield to Wakefield has no Sunday service

James H · 22 Jul 2019

Beaulieu Road gets an hourly service on Sundays, whereas there are big gaps on weekdays

Springs Branch · 23 Jul 2019

James H said:
Beaulieu Road gets an hourly service on Sundays, whereas there are big gaps on weekdays

Definitely a big difference at Beaulieu Road:-
14 up & 14 down trains on Sunday. 6 up & 8 down (7 SO) trains rest of the week.

The Clitheroe - Hellifield line sees 100% more passenger trains on summer Sundays compared to M-Sa.

I have a feeling Entwistle had a few more calls on Sunday compared to weekdays in the past (hourly versus 2-hourly??), but it seems to be pretty much hourly all week at present.

Two more lines to add to the no Sunday services list:-
Kirkby to Wigan
Ormskirk to Preston

agbrs_Jack · 23 Jul 2019

Congleton:
Around 19 each way Mon-Sat,
6 each way Sunday. (5 each way before December 2018)

Gourock Line:
4 tph Mon-Sat
1 tph Sunday

ashworth · 23 Jul 2019

No Sunday service north of Mansfield to Worksop on the Robin Hood Line.

70014IronDuke · 23 Jul 2019

ashworth said:
No Sunday service north of Mansfield to Worksop on the Robin Hood Line.

Ditto Ivanhoe stations

Springs Branch said:
...
The Clitheroe - Hellifield line sees 100% more passenger trains on summer Sundays compared to M-Sa.
...

Er, there are no passenger trains schedule between Clitheroe and Hellifield on weekdays, are there?

That makes it infinite percent, or meaningless - not 100%.
<Percentage pedant alert off>

scrapy · 23 Jul 2019

SN1 19-5 said:
Bryn to Wigan NW/ Liverpool. Half hour in the week. No service on Sundays. I think that this is cas of some sort of mashup between MPTE and GMPTE. Bryn hasn't had a Sunday service since I arrived there in 1978. Dunno if it had one before.

Bryn has had an hourly Sunday service since December 2017 (minus cancellations for driver availability).

On the same line though Edge Hill has 10 departures per hour Monday to Saturday daytime, but nothing on a Sunday.

Deerfold · 23 Jul 2019

70014IronDuke said:
Er, there are no passenger trains schedule between Clitheroe and Hellifield on weekdays, are there?

That makes it infinite percent, or meaningless - not 100%.
<Percentage pedant alert off>

Though you could say it gets 100% fewer passengers during the week.

700007 · 23 Jul 2019

Bob M said:
Victoria to Southampton: no service on Sundays.

Never understood why - this is a well used service, also cheaper compared to SWR services doing the same route who tend to be very busy usually as well on Sundays. Definitely a good opportunity to revenue grab.

BluePenguin · 24 Jul 2019

700007 said:
Never understood why - this is a well used service, also cheaper compared to SWR services doing the same route who tend to be very busy usually as well on Sundays. Definitely a good opportunity to revenue grab.

The Southern services to Victoria still run from Portsmouth which you can connect onto at Havant if coming from Southampton. Extremely slow though with all the time extra stops and long waits on a Sunday...

Deerfold · 24 Jul 2019

There's no service Manchester Vic - Leeds via Brighouse on a Sunday, though it's hourly through the week (and has recently been extended from 1800-ish to late evenings).

Manchester Vic to Sowerby Bridge and Mirfield to Leeds have other services, but to travel between the 2 sections you have to change at Leeds OR Halifax and Huddersfield.

Bookd · 24 Jul 2019

The Waterloo to Weybridge via Hounslow goes instead to Woking on Sundays.
Woking may be a more useful destination, but during the week there may not be paths to
cross the mainline to reach Woking (although it means that Weybridge loses a service on Sundays).

youngac · 28 Jul 2019

Glasgow - Gourock goes from 4tph Mondays - Saturdays to 1tph on Sundays. I’ve thought that’s a bit ridiculous since the 4th hourly service was added.

pompeyfan · 28 Jul 2019

Worplesdon station has no service on a Sunday, but has hourly (plus peak enhancements) during the week.

70014IronDuke · 28 Jul 2019

Deerfold said:
Though you could say it gets 100% fewer passengers during the week.

You could say a lot of things. Doesn't make them true.

LNW-GW Joint · 28 Jul 2019

The new Chester-Liverpool hourly service (TfW) operates 7 days a week (later start on Sundays).
The new Chester-Leeds service (Northern) does not operate west of Manchester on Sundays, though the stations are open for the TfW Manchester service.

In the Beeching era, BR withdrew Sunday services on a great many lines, particularly in the regions.
They were always very reluctant to reinstate them, and some lines are still suffering.
One obvious cost was opening manual signal boxes along a route 7 days a week.
Lines now controlled from an always-open power box stand a better chance of Sunday services.

Parallel · 29 Jul 2019

Morchard Road on the Tarka line goes from 1tph Monday to Saturday to then having 1tp4h on Sundays! Meanwhile Lapford, Kings Nympton, Portsmouth Arms, Chapelton and (as already mentioned) Newton St. Cyres go from a couple/few trains at peak times to 1tp4h and actually get a better service.

Grangetown - Penarth came to my head first though.

Deerfold · 29 Jul 2019

70014IronDuke said:
You could say a lot of things. Doesn't make them true.

But that is. If you have 250 passengers on a weekday, you have 100% (i.e 250) fewer on a day with no service.

70014IronDuke · 30 Jul 2019

Deerfold said:
But that is. If you have 250 passengers on a weekday, you have 100% (i.e 250) fewer on a day with no service.

You are quite right. I answered without thinking it through properly.

ld0595 · 31 Jul 2019

Broughty Ferry has 7 services on a Sunday compared with 38 on a normal weekday and Monifieth gets 30 calls on a weekday compared to 0 on Sundays.

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