LNER Class 91/Mk4 service status/withdrawals/2021 refurbishment

hexagon789 · 22 Jul 2019

rdlover777 said:
i've sadly never gotten to see a 91 IRL, despite going to St Pancras many times

They don't run into St Pancras though, King's Cross is the 'home' of the 91s

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route:oxford · 22 Jul 2019

EE Andy b1 said:
Cracking locomotives, never the most reliable but have given 30 years of Stirling service.

Stirling was only electrified in October 2018.

I'm not even sure if a Class 91 has ever made it to Stirling.

Mordac · 22 Jul 2019

EE Andy b1 said:
Cracking locomotives, never the most reliable but have given 30 years of Stirling service.

Not a patch on a Class 87 though. I am biased.

They've only been able to get to Stirling for about a year or so.

hexagon789 · 22 Jul 2019

Mordac said:
They've only been able to get to Stirling for about a year or so.

Have they actually operated in passenger service to Stirling?

Kris Marshall · 22 Jul 2019

Any one got a video of 91108 in action today to put on you tube ?

EE Andy b1 · 22 Jul 2019

Mordac said:
They've only been able to get to Stirling for about a year or so.

Didn't see that one coming! :lol:

gimmea50anyday · 22 Jul 2019

Kris Marshall said:
Any one got a video of 91108 in action today to put on you tube ?

Two of my vids on LNERs twitter

gimmea50anyday · 23 Jul 2019

So, 91108 was withdrawn from traffic yesterday.

Then this happens...

LNER Service Delivery Update said:
Current Fleet Status:
We have:-
21 MK4 sets (for 22 diagrams). No Hot Spare BN12 requires a loco at Bounds Green XX

Oh the irony!

hexagon789 · 23 Jul 2019

gimmea50anyday said:
So, 91108 was withdrawn from traffic yesterday.

Then this happens...

Oh the irony!

Does that mean that they need another 91 for the spare set?

Monkeyhead · 23 Jul 2019

Can you ring the leasing company up and ask to keep it for another week? Or is it just hard luck?

ScotGG · 23 Jul 2019

This has probably been covered many times but as a semi-regular user of the east coast line why exactly are they being replaced? As a user of trains across the UK they seemed absolutely fine every time I was on one. Better than 90% of stock. Were they clapped out mechanically? I get that HSTs were removed as diesel and 10 years older but can't work out why the replacement program now for Class 91 and Mk4 carriages? They seemed to have another decade in them as a passenger.

hwl · 23 Jul 2019

ScotGG said:
This has probably been covered many times but as a semi-regular user of the east coast line why exactly are they being replaced? As a user of trains across the UK they seemed absolutely fine every time I was on one. Better than 90% of stock. Were they clapped out mechanically? I get that HSTs were removed as diesel and 10 years older but can't work out why the replacement program now for Class 91 and Mk4 carriages? They seemed to have another decade in them as a passenger.

Increase capacity (no wasted power car or DVT) per train as paths are limited.
Improve performance (better accleration) so stops are easier to justify.
Improve reliability as the 91s are in bad shape

43094 · 23 Jul 2019

Last planned fling under its own power for 91108 today:

0Z91 11//55 Bounds Green - Doncaster
5Z91 17+09 Doncaster - Bounds Green (with BN22)

DarloRich · 23 Jul 2019

gimmea50anyday said:
So, 91108 was withdrawn from traffic yesterday.

Then this happens...

Oh the irony!

Loco dragged off the scrap, sorry, of lease line and fired up?

DarloRich · 23 Jul 2019

Monkeyhead said:
Can you ring the leasing company up and ask to keep it for another week? Or is it just hard luck?

Hello Porterbrook locomotive re leasing department, guaranteed to supply you with affordable traction solutions tailoured to modern transport needs, how may we direct your call..............................

hwl · 23 Jul 2019

DarloRich said:
Hello Porterbrook locomotive releasing department, guaranteed to supply you with affordable traction solutions tailoured modern transport needs, how may we direct your call..............................

Eversholt???

DarloRich · 23 Jul 2019

hwl said:
Eversholt???

way to crush the mood.........

Monkeyhead · 23 Jul 2019

DarloRich said:
Hello Porterbrook locomotive releasing department, guaranteed to supply you with affordable traction solutions tailoured modern transport needs, how may we direct your call..............................

"Yes sir, I'm sure we can work something out, there will be the usual short term loan excess however, and we'd need to take your credit card details now in order to secure use of this valuable asset........"

DarloRich · 23 Jul 2019

Monkeyhead said:
"Yes sir, I'm sure we can work something out, there will be the usual short term loan excess however, and we'd need to take your credit card details now in order to secure use of this valuable asset........"

discount for cash?

EE Andy b1 · 23 Jul 2019

DarloRich said:
discount for cash?

BOGOF!

or

LOGOF!! :smile:

gimmea50anyday · 23 Jul 2019

Will they need the insurance excessadd on for OHLE protection? Surely there's a premium for newark-retford. Might want to protect the NCD....

DarloRich · 23 Jul 2019

gimmea50anyday said:
Will they need the insurance excessadd on for OHLE protection? Surely there's a premium for newark-retford. Might want to protect the NCD....

I think the protected no claims discount went some time ago.......................

rdlover777 · 23 Jul 2019

EE Andy b1 said:
That's why! You need to go Kings Cross.

nlogax said:
Just cross the road...

hexagon789 said:
They don't run into St Pancras though, King's Cross is the 'home' of the 91s

Thats the thing thou, you can see a little bit of the ECML when the train enters/leaves the London Tunnel out of St Pancras

EE Andy b1 · 23 Jul 2019

rdlover777 said:
Thats the thing thou, you can see a little bit of the ECML when the train enters/leaves the London Tunnel out of St Pancras

But not enough to see a Class 91 on Mk4s!! 8-)

Just take 10 minutes out and have a look in Kings Cross before it's too late.

hexagon789 · 23 Jul 2019

rdlover777 said:
Thats the thing thou, you can see a little bit of the ECML when the train enters/leaves the London Tunnel out of St Pancras

Easier to just nip round to the Cross though

Monkeyhead · 23 Jul 2019

gimmea50anyday said:
Will they need the insurance excessadd on for OHLE protection? Surely there's a premium for newark-retford. Might want to protect the NCD....

"Excellent sir, that's the short term loan, credit card excess payment, Newark-Retford insurance premium, NCD protection payment and the (non) optional repaint into Leasing Co. colours. That'll be [insert large amount here]. What do you mean you can buy a dozen Azuma's for that? What about the seats sir, think about the seats".

Enough now, back to the sunshine!

westcoaster · 23 Jul 2019

gimmea50anyday said:
Will they need the insurance excessadd on for OHLE protection? Surely there's a premium for newark-retford. Might want to protect the NCD....

Buy a lottery ticket quick , the wires are down again apparently

87electric · 23 Jul 2019

Job stopped. Currently sat down south of Newark on 1S19. Wires down?
91108 0Z91 alongside us panto down.

Peter C · 23 Jul 2019

43094 said:
Last planned fling under its own power for 91108 today:

0Z91 11//55 Bounds Green - Doncaster
5Z91 17+09 Doncaster - Bounds Green (with BN22)

So does this mean 91108 is running light engine? Sorry for being stupid!

-Peter

221129 · 23 Jul 2019

Peter C said:
So does this mean 91108 is running light engine? Sorry for being stupid!

-Peter

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