Hadfield/Glossop inter validity

Hello, services to Hadfield/Glossop from Manchester Piccadilly sometimes route Dinting > Hadfield > Glossop and sometimes Dinting > Glossop > Hadfield.

(The line splits at Dinting with two short branches to H and G).

Suppose you have a CDR Manchester Stations to Hadfield.
http://www.brfares.com/#faredetail?...ert=on&flow=0&multi=0&fare=2&rte=1000&tkt=CDR

If you get this train http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y61878/2019/07/22 it calls at Glossop before Hadfield, so presumably you could break/finish your journey at Glossop.

But if you get this one http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y65731/2019/07/21 it calls at Hadfield before Glossop. So does that mean you can't stay on until Glossop as validity ends at Hadfield?

Similar question in reverse for starting at a later of the 2 stations.

So is there a Mcr Stations to x ticket that's valid to both Hadfield and Glossop regardless of which route the service takes?

Thaks!

If you have a ticket to Hadfield, and your train calls at hadfield, then your ticket is not valid for any further travel; you have reached your destination.

If you have a ticket from hadfield to Manchester stations then you can board at hadfield, or another station (such as glossop or broadbottom) further down the line, providing your journey does not pass through hadfield (as you can’t pass through your origin).

That said, there might be some local easements for all this. I haven’t had a chance to have a look.

Thank you @alistairlees though I did say that in my question, I'm looking for a way around that

aye2beeviasea said:

But if you get this one http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y65731/2019/07/21 it calls at Hadfield before Glossop. So does that mean you can't stay on until Glossop as validity ends at Hadfield?

Similar question in reverse for starting at a later of the 2 stations.

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No problem, though I was answering these two questions above really. The caveat re easements still stands.

Re s valid ticket for both, you need a Greater Manchester Wayfarer, unless there are easements. Though I suspect that isn’t what you had in mind!

alistairlees said:

No problem, though I was answering these two questions above really. The caveat re easements still stands.

Re s valid ticket for both, you need a Greater Manchester Wayfarer, unless there are easements. Though I suspect that isn’t what you had in mind!

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There are no relevant easements and the advice given so far is correct. However if you have a Manchester to Hadfield return, you could begin your return journey once you got to Hadfield and break your journey on the way back at Glossop, however you wouldn't be able to double back via Hadfield after resuming. (In practice it's unlikely anyone would know, unless you came across the same guard twice and even then they probably wouldn't be bothered/remember).

Thanks both, I'll have a think about your suggestions. Probably it'll be a case of buying the ticket to match the service route.

A £7 Greater Manchester Rail Ranger would cover this, rather than the £14 Manchester Wayfarer. Really, Glossop and Hadfield ought to be inter-available destinations but there's nothing official to say that they are. What about using some convoluted plan involving £0.00 overdistance excess fare(s)?

lyndhurst25 said:

A £7 Greater Manchester Rail Ranger would cover this, rather than the £14 Manchester Wayfarer. Really, Glossop and Hadfield ought to be inter-available destinations but there's nothing official to say that they are. What about using some convoluted plan involving £0.00 overdistance excess fare(s)?

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Neither Glossop nor Hadfield are in Greater Manchester

exile said:

Neither Glossop nor Hadfield are in Greater Manchester

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No, but the GM tickets are valid to them, a bit like the way Saveaways are valid on Merseyrail trains outside the Merseyside PTE area (i.e. to Ormskirk, Ellesmere Port and Chester), though the arrangement for Hadfield and Glossop has been in place for far longer than that.