Depot Logos - Eastfield etc

GrimShady · 24 Jul 2019

Anyone know the history of Eastfield Depot's logo? I'm told it started life as part of an advertisement for the WHL on printed material before spreading to the small fleet of boiler 37/0s and subsequently the depot itself.

According to some, Eastfield actually started off the depot mascot tradition, any truth to this?

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GusB · 24 Jul 2019

I found a post on RMweb https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/125810-scottish-depot-emblems/

The emblems started life as a symbol for each of the Area Maintenance Engineers (AME) that had loco allocations:

AME North (Inverness) Highland Stag
AME East (Haymarket) Castle
AME West (Eastfield) West Highland Terrier (NOT a Scottie dog)
AME South (Shields & Motherwell) Salmon

The AME South West (Ayr & Corkerhill) had no main line loco allocations, and no official logo.

How much truth there is to this, I don't know. I certainly remember seeing the Westie before any of the others, although the Highland stag certainly became a regular sight when they started to use the Highland Rail branding. I don't ever recall seeing a Haymarket castle, though.

randyrippley · 24 Jul 2019

The terrier was painted on at least some of the class 81 fleet toward the end of their lives. Got a vague memory that some of the 85s may have carried them as well. Both used to turn up at Lancaster on Glasgow-Birmingham services

hexagon789 · 24 Jul 2019

GusB said:
I don't ever recall seeing a Haymarket castle, though.

Didn't the 47/7s have some sort of Castle emblems?

GrimShady · 24 Jul 2019

GusB said:
I found a post on RMweb https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/125810-scottish-depot-emblems/

How much truth there is to this, I don't know. I certainly remember seeing the Westie before any of the others, although the Highland stag certainly became a regular sight when they started to use the Highland Rail branding. I don't ever recall seeing a Haymarket castle, though.

Nice find GusB!

randyrippley said:
The terrier was painted on at least some of the class 81 fleet toward the end of their lives. Got a vague memory that some of the 85s may have carried them as well. Both used to turn up at Lancaster on Glasgow-Birmingham services

Wasn't that the Motherwell Salmon logo?

randyrippley · 24 Jul 2019

GrimShady said:
Wasn't that the Motherwell Fish logo?

Don't think it was the salmon..........but now you've got me doubting my memory

GrimShady · 24 Jul 2019

randyrippley said:
Don't think it was the salmon..........but now you've got me doubting my memory

I doubt very much it was the Terrier as Eastfield was diesel only.

Here's one with the Salmon

https://www.philt.org.uk/BR/BR-clas-81-87/i-4Q6VTdd/

Highlandspring · 24 Jul 2019

GusB said:
I don't ever recall seeing a Haymarket castle, though.

When the 158s were new each vehicle had a sticker above the cab door with the castle logo and the legend “This vehicle is maintained by Haymarket sprinter depot”. Some of them retained it until very recently.

GrimShady · 24 Jul 2019

hexagon789 said:
Didn't the 47/7s have some sort of Castle emblems?

And some 08/20/26/27/47s. Half the 47/7 fleet had Castles before they all got transferred to Eastfield in 87 i think.

hexagon789 · 24 Jul 2019

GrimShady said:
And some 08/20/26/27/47s. Half the 47/7 fleet had Castles before they all got transferred to Eastfield in 87 i think.

More classes than I thought.

GusB · 24 Jul 2019

I honestly cannot recall seeing the castle logo, although I must have encountered it at some point over the years. Maybe it's because most of my journeys would have been on Inverness - Aberdeen and then either Inverness or Aberdeen to Glasgow - would these journeys have been covered mainly by Eastfield and Inverness locos, which would explain why I only saw Westies and Stags?

Just a suggestion, but perhaps the thread should be retitled to allow a wider discussion of other depot "mascots". It'd be a shame to confine the discussion to just the one, and has already drifted slightly off-topic!

GrimShady · 24 Jul 2019

Thread titled edited.

Bertie the bus · 24 Jul 2019

Was Motherwell the only depot to change its logo? I know Stratford had a few different versions of its cockney sparrow but Motherwell changed theirs completely from a salmon to a hammer and anvil.

As for where it all started, the St Blazey lizard must be a contender for the first. If not the first it was a very early one.

Cowley · 24 Jul 2019

I do love a depot mascot. The Stratford Cockney sparrow was one of my favourites, but there were others too.
How about the Cornish Railways 37 with the wee lizard on them?
Or the Tinsley snail that appeared on some of the Peaks after they were transferred from Toton?
Plus the Gateshead 47s that had the little coat of arms above the number...

Edit - Just read Bertie’s post above. Cornish Railways must have been one of the first, but some of the Welsh allocated DMUs had a red Welsh dragon applied to the front, and they must’ve been quite early on too.

GrimShady · 24 Jul 2019

Bertie the bus said:
Was Motherwell the only depot to change its logo? I know Stratford had a few different versions of its cockney sparrow but Motherwell changed theirs completely from a salmon to a hammer and anvil.

As for where it all started, the St Blazey lizard must be a contender for the first. If not the first it was a very early one.

Eastfield had two of the terrier. The first was the standard commonly seen, the second was the diamond side profile type used on Railfreight locos.

Cowley · 25 Jul 2019

GrimShady said:
Eastfield had two of the terrier. The first was the standard commonly seen, the second was the diamond side profile type used on Railfreight locos.

Now the diamond style Railfreight/Civil Engineering ones are whole other thing. The Lizard of St Blazey was nice, but the Laira one (featuring the Mayflower) on the side of 50149 was really lovely:

Not my photo.

xotGD · 25 Jul 2019

Class 81s had a fish. I don't recall anything on the 85s.

telstarbox · 25 Jul 2019

Hither Green was an oast house (I've got a replica sticker of it on my bike!)

Highlandspring · 25 Jul 2019

xotGD said:
Class 81s had a fish.

That was the AME South salmon as applied to Shields allocated locos and mentioned in the first post. The salmon has a ring in its mouth because it came from the coat of arms of Glasgow (here’s the tree that never grew, here’s the bird that never flew, here’s the fish that never swam and here’s the bell that never rang.)

Cowley · 25 Jul 2019

I seem to remember that Thornaby had a rather nice Kingfisher logo?
And another one I remember was a little Hare on March allocated locos.

GrimShady · 25 Jul 2019

The Terrier made it to various WHL station signs

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...tation_geograph-3332261-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg

Cowley · 25 Jul 2019

GrimShady said:
The Terrier made it to various WHL station signs

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...tation_geograph-3332261-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg

That’s interesting, I hadn’t realised it was featured on signs.

dubscottie · 25 Jul 2019

The terrier and the Haymarket castle were used on DMU stock in addition to locos. The centre car of any 3 car 101/107 in blue/grey got them.

I cant recall any SPTE orange units getting them but I am sure it must of happened.

D1537 · 26 Jul 2019

From some of my 47 photos, I see a metal cabside Tinsley Yorkshire Rose, a full colour Thornaby Kingfisher and a metal cabside Immingham Star.

Cowley · 26 Jul 2019

D1537 said:
From some of my 47 photos, I see a metal cabside Tinsley Yorkshire Rose, a full colour Thornaby Kingfisher and a metal cabside Immingham Star.

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Welcome to the forum D1537. Where was the top left photo taken.

d9009alycidon · 26 Jul 2019

When Eastfield depot closed they held a farewell dance under the banner " The Dug has Died" with the emblem upside down

Mag_seven · 27 Jul 2019

randyrippley said:
The terrier was painted on at least some of the class 81 fleet toward the end of their lives. Got a vague memory that some of the 85s may have carried them as well.

Only Class 81s had fish as they were allocated to Shields Depot - Class 85s certainly did not carry them.

GrimShady · 27 Jul 2019

Cowley said:
That’s interesting, I hadn’t realised it was featured on signs.

It also featured on numerous promotional material at the time.

GrimShady · 28 Jul 2019

dubscottie said:
The terrier and the Haymarket castle were used on DMU stock in addition to locos. The centre car of any 3 car 101/107 in blue/grey got them.

I cant recall any SPTE orange units getting them but I am sure it must of happened.

I remember Terriers on the DMUs but I don't recall ever seeing the Haymarket castle.

Helvellyn · 28 Jul 2019

Can read about the Railfreight depot logos here.

InterCity Depots also had some badges created just before privatisation - I have a set of badges but need to take some pictures. Interestingly there were no badges for the East Coast depots though.

Few more can be found on the Hattons site. Never seen the South Wales Sheep or Tinsley Snail before!

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