59CosG95
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Not a clue. The repaint front for LNWR's certainly gone quiet.
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RealTrains07
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LNR? Its happening right now, just taking a while since its the first 350 unit having interior refit at the same time
Once the first unit is done it will start speeding up hopefully since they will most likely split the work into 2 phases
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Ok, thanks!
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Will they be fitting an auto SDO type system like Scotrail 385s have where the interior PIS displays 'coach 1 of 8' or 'coach 2 of 8' etc in each coach with auto announcements advising customers for short platforms to move forward in the coaches affected? The de-lettering of trains with the new livery makes me think they might do?
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Hope so, i dont see why they wouldnt to be honest since at stations they have similar announcements for trains that split
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Lettering of coaches only makes sense if units always face the same direction. I have on a few occasions travelled on a Pendo between Birmingham and London which has been running in reverse formation yet they normally run end to end with no reverses. Cross country Voyagers between Manchester and the West Country could be facing either way depending on which route they take south of Birmingham, I was on a GWR HST on the Cotswold LIne a couple of years ago when the guard announced that because the train was running in reverse formation it would on this occasion be the last two coaches which would be at the short platform of the station where I was to get off.
What I was asking is whether the system South Western Railway had retrofitted to their Desiro fleet is likely to be fitted to the 350/1s and /3s. Whereby the internal electronic displays within the train show which coach you are in by showing a number. E.g. 'coach 2 of 8'. The system also knows which stations have short platforms, and automatically announces to move forward through the train before those stations. To use this system, coach letters are no longer any use so are not needed. Conincedence?
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Passed this yesterday. Didn't see the unit number, but it was heading south.
Base livery, either dark blue or green doors. Fleet number was the small (350/3) type font, really cannot be sure, but may have been 35040X ?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97175/2019/06/22/advanced
Base livery, either dark blue or green doors. Fleet number was the small (350/3) type font, really cannot be sure, but may have been 35040X ?
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97175/2019/06/22/advanced
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I was responding your last sentence in your previous quote about no lettering on the new livery. Cross Country Voyagers display the letters electronically because when two units are coupled together there are four possible ways that they can be coupled.
59CosG95
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If it was behind a Europhoenix 37, it would have been 350123, which has just returned to Northampton from Long Marston.
Aye. So I wonder whether the removal of coach letters on the 350s indicates that an electronic version of coach letters or numbers will be added during refurb like at SWR?
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And we still wait for 350/106 to be released. Mabye they are gonna refurb 2 at the same time
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Cradley Heath now confirmed to have new signs and signage. https://flic.kr/p/2gi3S5f
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350/123 is back in service following corrosion repair and removal of LM livery vinyls
350/115 is due out of bletchley within the next 2 weeks as the official first interior refurbished unit
350/115 is due out of bletchley within the next 2 weeks as the official first interior refurbished unit
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Witton station getting the tango paintbrush treatment yesterday
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Toilets at the B end of New Street Station now re-opened in all over 'Orible Orange'. I found it very oppressive in the cubicles. But surely New Street is a Network Rail managed station not WMR?
Travelled on a very nicely fitted out 323 on the Cross City Line. I liked the moquet and the orange grab rails went nicely with the seat covering. I could even read the information display in the next carriage from my seat!
Travelled on a very nicely fitted out 323 on the Cross City Line. I liked the moquet and the orange grab rails went nicely with the seat covering. I could even read the information display in the next carriage from my seat!
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Bedford St. Johns has now had its signs replaced with the new LNWR "Marston Vale" ones. Like all the other MVL stations, its lampposts retain LM green & black.
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350 115 enters service tomorrow with LNWR livery and interior
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A couple of notes.
Appears 350115 is not in LNWR livery, but a "base livery" according to the 350 refurb thread.
Station wise, a couple of anomalies, being a bit pedantic. Erdington, one lamppost still black/green as CCTV post in way and cannot be lowered. Ans even weirder is a lamppost at Wylde Green towards Sutton is half finished. A couple of really oddities there.
Kings Norton Station finally finished but still has old signage as does Northfield and Longbridge. Witton also completed again with old signage
Appears 350115 is not in LNWR livery, but a "base livery" according to the 350 refurb thread.
Station wise, a couple of anomalies, being a bit pedantic. Erdington, one lamppost still black/green as CCTV post in way and cannot be lowered. Ans even weirder is a lamppost at Wylde Green towards Sutton is half finished. A couple of really oddities there.
Kings Norton Station finally finished but still has old signage as does Northfield and Longbridge. Witton also completed again with old signage
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Seen by Forum member Mr Train at Manchester Piccadilly and posted on thread Back on the Platform Page 46 Post 1354
Northern are so short of stock that they do not appear to have time to rebrand.
Another of Mr Train's photos. Seen at Stafford. Photo posted on above thread Page 45 Post 1334
Northern are so short of stock that they do not appear to have time to rebrand.
Another of Mr Train's photos. Seen at Stafford. Photo posted on above thread Page 45 Post 1334
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59CosG95
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Lye and Old Hill now have WMR signs & signage. Old Hill has additional branding “for Haden Hill”, while Cradley Heath has additional branding “for Merry Hill Shopping Centre”.
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To put this one to bed, 350115 remained in London Midland colours but it was hauled to Long Marston on Saturday. 350104 returned in the plain grey.
59CosG95
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Thanks for clarifying that @Defiance149 - it seemed a bit remiss IMHO for it to have allegedly had the full refurb without its corrosion repair works and LM de-branding.
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Chester Road has apparently had its signs replaced with the new WMR ones, with "for Boldmere" being added in as a transfer on the side (similar to the ones for Cadbury at Bournville).
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A post from Faceache shows that Millbrook now has LNWR 'Marston Vale' signage. Still the same LM lampposts.
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Not much change on the southern WCML as of today, but I did notice that one solitary lamppost at Tring (behind the banner repeater signal on P1) is still in LM black/green.
59CosG95
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Just seen a picture on Flickr, and Lichfield Trent Valley appears to have finally gained new lamppost colours - LNWR two-tone green on the WCML platforms, and WMR orange/gey on the Cross-City platform.
Are the signs also different colours? Does this happen at any of their other stations?
59CosG95
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No on both counts. Tamworth, their only other 2-level station on the WCML, has LNWR throughout, as it isn't served by WMR on P3/4.