rdlover777
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the 331s and 195s do look nice, just a shame they are fraught with problems
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the 331s and 195s do look nice, just a shame they are fraught with problems
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AverageTD
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Does anyone have any idea when the 745s might start on the IC/Stansted services?
rdlover777
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On the 19th of July, the ORR had announced they'd approved some 745s https://twitter.com/railandroad/status/1152213087279357952 but they'll still need the 2000+ fault free mileage
dk1
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More of a nice little touch than a publicity stunt. We have a catering department & the staff often assist with launch events & the like. Some complimentary gifts & cake along with a cup of tea or coffee to welcome in a new era.
Probably see a IC 745 before a Stanex, as far as I'm aware no west drivers have even touched a 745 yet.
rdlover777
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plus, so far there is more 745/0s here
LNW-GW Joint
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That's complete marketing nonsense.
What you get through the OHLE/3rd rail is whatever mix the electricity suppliers have in that area.
This cringe-worthy press release by NR and EDF just commits EDF to generate a matching amount of energy from nuclear, which they would probably have done anyway.
It also includes as justification for the contract, a list of all the electrification schemes that have since been cancelled (even "electric spine"!).
https://www.networkrailmediacentre....ail-electrification-programme-in-a-generation
LNW-GW Joint
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So the initial services are in diesel mode only?
When do we get to experience proper bi-mode operation, switching between modes en route?
When do we get to experience proper bi-mode operation, switching between modes en route?
But that's how energy is traded. The nuclear generated electricity cannot be sold twice, it's perfectly valid to say traction current is zero carbon even though as you point out in reality it's all a mix.
A similar principle exists in the gas market, whereby green gas from AD plants is supplied via the national gas grid to CNG filling stations, for example, who can then claim RTFCs on the green gas. In real life it's probably fossil gas that's gone into the truck tank, but mass balancing means that someone else who is paying for fossil gas actually gets the green gas.
So long as there's a robust system to ensure there is no double accounting of energy from various sources, it's perfectly valid to mass or load balance in this way.
dk1
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No confirmation as to when or if it will happen on the move yet. They can go into AC mode whilst at or moving around Norwich & Crown Point during the current passenger diagram (NC37) & this will be all that they do for the next few weeks. Hopefully some Cambridge runs will follow next. Best to keep anymore off the local lines out of Norwich until the ASDO software is sorted later in the year as calls on the current diagram have seen the loss of calls at Brundall Gardens as well as Haddiscoe on the up.
I don't think even the most ardent of tree hugging proponent green would suggest building a separate green energy grid. The carbon footprint of that alone would be huge.
Rick1984
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Does anyone know if it plan upped in Norwich while waiting in platform.
Interesting that the toilets are both on one side of the power pack so the corridor will see a lot of use
Interesting that the toilets are both on one side of the power pack so the corridor will see a lot of use
I was wondering how long it'd be before you compared these to Northern's new trains.
Tim Regester
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So chatting last night to a GA conductor on Marks Tey to Sudbury, that branch may be first or last to get 755/3s in service but noone knows when.
F Great Eastern
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With it being a big news day and everything going well, I'm surprised that the DFT haven't wheeled someone out or the minister isn't out for a photoshoot to take credit for the whole thing, like they normally do, playing up their role and down the role of the operator, like they always do on good news days.
Maybe they'll even start appearing when things under their control go wrong next and admitting their mistakes rather than watching the TOC get all the flack for something that was outside of their control. I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, though, but it would be nice if the DFT dropped the nationalise the praise and privatise the blame agenda.
Maybe they'll even start appearing when things under their control go wrong next and admitting their mistakes rather than watching the TOC get all the flack for something that was outside of their control. I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, though, but it would be nice if the DFT dropped the nationalise the praise and privatise the blame agenda.
F Great Eastern
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The one negative thing on these local units though is the size of the destination display panel in the side windows. They are massive and block half the window.
Do they need to be that big? Couldn't they put them on the doors or on the body itself like other FLIRTS?
Do they need to be that big? Couldn't they put them on the doors or on the body itself like other FLIRTS?
Trainfan344
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Travelled on the 07:47 as far as Reedham this morning. A very interesting new era, Lots of room, although the engine bay corridor is a pinch point, if you meet someone going the other way you have to either hope the nearest seats are free or go all the way to the next set of doors. Lots of managers about handing out leaflets and free usb chargers.
306024
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Try getting someone to Lowestoft for 07.47! A very quiet launch was a sensible option.
Well done to everyone behind the scenes to arrive at this important milestone. It hasn’t been easy! Once the fleet starts to become common the commonplace the benefits to passengers will be welcome.
Very Little cover on local media, I only saw ITV Anglia News this evening, with only photo stills of the train, surprising, when GA are a big spending advertiser/sponsor with them, I would have thought that they would have given them a higher profile coverage...
dk1
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If it involves guards it would be a definite no no & obviously drivers are not happy with any extra risk. Such a shame guards are not involved more but it seems the protocol unfortunately
dk1
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Makes so much sense. This is very much a quiet sensible and very limited launch. Let's get it right first.
Nice to see it's gone well, does look a massive step up Inn quality for the local services.
Agree it's sensible to do a modest launch rather than fanfare only for things to go wrong. This is how it should be done and other TOCs would do well to take note.
Would it be fair to assume the 170 operated diagrams will be next to go over to 755 operation, given the impending transfer of the 170s to other TOCs?
Gutted I missed the chance to ride behind a 37
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Agree it's sensible to do a modest launch rather than fanfare only for things to go wrong. This is how it should be done and other TOCs would do well to take note.
Would it be fair to assume the 170 operated diagrams will be next to go over to 755 operation, given the impending transfer of the 170s to other TOCs?
Gutted I missed the chance to ride behind a 37
.If it involves guards it would be a definite no no & obviously drivers are not happy with any extra risk. Such a shame guards are not involved more but it seems the protocol unfortunately
Not surprised, seems to be the norm with most TOC's to make them all glorified kit kat sellers as soon as possible.
Didn't realise it had gone over to a form of DOO. Falling asleep at the back here!
ashkeba
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I see what you did there but Innsbruck is in Austria and these are Swiss trains, aren't they?
Nice to see it's gone well, does look a massive step up Inn quality for the local services.
Agree it's sensible to do a modest launch rather than fanfare only for things to go wrong. This is how it should be done and other TOCs would do well to take note.
Would it be fair to assume the 170 operated diagrams will be next to go over to 755 operation, given the impending transfer of the 170s to other TOCs?
Gutted I missed the chance to ride behind a 37
Doubt that. 153's will be the first to go I'd say. Wouldn't go down well with anyone, passengers or crew, letting the 170's go before the dogboxes go to dogbox heaven.
Those surplus 153's would arguably do a job over here strengthening the snow hills in the short term.
ScottGallagher
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So right, what a stark contrast to anything on Northern new or old , perhaps if abellio kept the franchise back in 2016........ Couldn't help but read that in Jim Bowens voice