Abellio online assessments (Trainee Conductor)

PJFan · 17 Mar 2019

Hi,

I’m aware there is already a thread for the Abellio online assessments for driver roles, but does anyone have any idea which tests they make you do for a trainee conductor position?

Thanks

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GG96LFC · 17 Mar 2019

Hello friend. I applied to be a trainee senior conductor with West Midlands trains in June 2018. I didn’t actually have to take an online assessment (that I can remember), I was invited to donthe psychometric assesments before an interview with a conductor manager and a HR person. Just give me a minute and I’ll get the names of the assessments

GG96LFC · 17 Mar 2019

1st was the Rules Accquisition Aptitude test, 2nd was Group Bourson, final test was ticket selling and checking

PJFan · 17 Mar 2019

Great, that’s really helpful, thank you!

GG96LFC · 17 Mar 2019

No problem my friend. In terms of the interview, the questions were fairly straightforward. ‘Name a time you have given excellent customer service, name a time you have dealt with an emergency, what would you do if a customer is aggressive’ etc.

Devamo · 23 Apr 2019

Hello friends. Quick question, if you pass the psychometric tests is the interview done on the same day or a different day?

GG96LFC · 23 Apr 2019

Different day my friend. You’ll get an email a few days after assessment, if successful, inviting you to interview

Devamo · 23 Apr 2019

GG96LFC said:
Different day my friend. You’ll get an email a few days after assessment, if successful, inviting you to interview

Okay thank you!

Nall · 25 Apr 2019

GG96LFC said:
1st was the Rules Accquisition Aptitude test, 2nd was Group Bourson, final test was ticket selling and checking

Sorry to bother you, I'm knew to this, I had my assessment today and did all 3 of above. I practised before hand and could not finish the raat and ticket selling questions but got about 3/4s through both of them, was these tests meant to be completed? As the time I had made it impossible

GG96LFC · 25 Apr 2019

Nall said:
Sorry to bother you, I'm knew to this, I had my assessment today and did all 3 of above. I practised before hand and could not finish the raat and ticket selling questions but got about 3/4s through both of them, was these tests meant to be completed? As the time I had made it impossible

Hello friend. I think you’ll be ok, I can’t remember exactly how many questions I completed on my tests, but I definitely remember doing only around 3/4 for two of the tests and I still passed. I think I only had to wait 2-3 days until they told me I was successful so hopefully you won’t have to wait too long

Nall · 26 Apr 2019

Thanks mate! Appreciate the reply

Really hope so I looked around and everybody looked complexes as to how hard it was but I tried to make sure answers what I could correctly

ZFS88 · 26 Apr 2019

Nall said:
Sorry to bother you, I'm knew to this, I had my assessment today and did all 3 of above. I practised before hand and could not finish the raat and ticket selling questions but got about 3/4s through both of them, was these tests meant to be completed? As the time I had made it impossible

Could I ask what station the position you done a test was for? As I applied for a conductor role and have not heard anything. Just so I know if it is the same one.

Nall · 27 Apr 2019

Mine was advertised about a month ago and it let you choose the station mate, so I chose snow Hill. You should hear something soon, which station did you apply for

andrew johnson · 28 Jul 2019

Group bourson test, is that the dots? I have an assessment day, this Tuesday for WMT and trying to get some more insight

Stigy · 28 Jul 2019

andrew johnson said:
Group bourson test, is that the dots? I have an assessment day, this Tuesday for WMT and trying to get some more insight

Yes, Group Bourden is the dots. However some/most TOCs use the SCAAT test for Guards which is similar but with shapes instead I believe.

andrew johnson · 28 Jul 2019

Hi Stigy, just trying to establish what test i will be sitting, as the SCAAT is proving difficult to increase my speed,

Has anyone any idea of the number of correct answers that would give you a pass mark?

Stigy · 28 Jul 2019

andrew johnson said:
Hi Stigy, just trying to establish what test i will be sitting, as the SCAAT is proving difficult to increase my speed,

Has anyone any idea of the number of correct answers that would give you a pass mark?

Hard to say to be honest. I know for driver assessments some TOC/FOCs have enhanced and national standards so the amount one would pass with at national, wouldn’t necessarily be a pass at the enhanced standard. With Guard/Conductor assessments, as far as I’m aware there’s just the one standard, and as a rule of thumb, I’d say about halfway through each box (you get 2-minutes for each I recall?). The idea is to work quickly and accurately, so certainly don’t expect to complete the assessment in its entirety. If you did and got several wrong, you’d fail. If you did say half, and got it all correct, you’ll probably pass.

Matthew Vidler · 28 Jul 2019

Stigy said:
Yes, Group Bourden is the dots. However some/most TOCs use the SCAAT test for Guards which is similar but with shapes instead I believe.

Yeah it's 9 lots of 1 minute blocks of shapes e.g. C / W \ § < >.

The 1st 3 are looking for 1 matching symbol, the next 3 are 2 matching symbols then the last 3 are 1 constant symbol and the 1st symbol of the row.

I would say SCAAT is harder than the dots, having done both, but accuracy is the main thing to focus on.

andrew johnson · 28 Jul 2019

I aint stopping trying, its something new to me, and I will continue till I get there, however with the varying symbols and my ability to easily start marking the opposite requirement ( for example instead of ) then fingers crossed for me, I feel confident in the other tests the ticket selling and checking, TVRT, so one to concentrate on, Its surely something I am enjoying

andrew johnson · 28 Jul 2019

Matthew Vidler said:
Yeah it's 9 lots of 1 minute blocks of shapes e.g. C / W \ § < >.

The 1st 3 are looking for 1 matching symbol, the next 3 are 2 matching symbols then the last 3 are 1 constant symbol and the 1st symbol of the row.

I would say SCAAT is harder than the dots, having done both, but accuracy is the main thing to focus on.

Hi Mathew and thank you for your reply, SCAAT is so hard to get into as I mistake the shape for the opposite so like ( becomes ) and so on (( becomes ))

Is there any way to hammer this home any advice that can be shared, I am getting fairly high scores, but speed and accuracy are taking some time catching up with each other

DID ANYONE ELSE find they improved, this is day 3 for me and having brought the Tests from OPC website I am trying to give myself the best possible chance of success

Any help appreciated

Thanks

Matthew Vidler · 28 Jul 2019

andrew johnson said:
Hi Mathew and thank you for your reply, SCAAT is so hard to get into as I mistake the shape for the opposite so like ( becomes ) and so on (( becomes ))

Is there any way to hammer this home any advice that can be shared, I am getting fairly high scores, but speed and accuracy are taking some time catching up with each other

DID ANYONE ELSE find they improved, this is day 3 for me and having brought the Tests from OPC website I am trying to give myself the best possible chance of success

Any help appreciated

Thanks

I found that naming them helped so with your ( I would call it a C and ) a backward C. Then I would just say it again and again in my head during the test.

With the one with constant symbol and 1st in the row, I would say constant 1st and 1st in row afterwards. For example row 1 - C \ C \ C \.... 2nd row C W C W C W.....

I only practiced the Scaat once as I had been doing the dots for quite a while. Just stay calm, stay hydrated and be as comfortable as you can.

Hope that helps

andrew johnson · 28 Jul 2019

Matthew Vidler said:
I found that naming them helped so with your ( I would call it a C and ) a backward C. Then I would just say it again and again in my head during the test.

With the one with constant symbol and 1st in the row, I would say constant 1st and 1st in row afterwards. For example row 1 - C \ C \ C \.... 2nd row C W C W C W.....

I only practiced the Scaat once as I had been doing the dots for quite a while. Just stay calm, stay hydrated and be as comfortable as you can.

Hope that helps

Thanks matt, surely will try those out!

Stigy · 28 Jul 2019

Matthew Vidler said:
Yeah it's 9 lots of 1 minute blocks of shapes e.g. C / W \ § < >.

The 1st 3 are looking for 1 matching symbol, the next 3 are 2 matching symbols then the last 3 are 1 constant symbol and the 1st symbol of the row.

I would say SCAAT is harder than the dots, having done both, but accuracy is the main thing to focus on.

I’ve only ever done the dots and found that the easiest of all the driver psychometric assessments. The SCAAT does look more complex.

andrew johnson · 29 Jul 2019

Stigy said:
I’ve only ever done the dots and found that the easiest of all the driver psychometric assessments. The SCAAT does look more complex.

Not sure what is easier being honest but my latest self test results were

Sub test

1 118 - 4 omissions
2 116 - 2 omissions
3 197 - 1 omission
4 88 - 1 omission
5 85 - 2 omissions
6 149 - 7 omissions
7 117 - 0 omissions
8 87 - 3 omissions
9 188 - 8 ommisions

They are getting quicker, also matthew mentioned a style of remembering which has surely boosted the speed, just need to get lower omissions then all should be fine

andrew johnson · 29 Jul 2019

Stigy said:
I’ve only ever done the dots and found that the easiest of all the driver psychometric assessments. The SCAAT does look more complex.

I have never done the dot test, but will try once this assessment is completed. Its really strange how they can tell so much about you from a series of dots

Stigy · 29 Jul 2019

andrew johnson said:
I have never done the dot test, but will try once this assessment is completed. Its really strange how they can tell so much about you from a series of dots

It’s strange too, as some find it really difficult, and others find it easy. Compared to the numerous other tests, I found it a walk in the park to be honest!

andrew johnson · 31 Jul 2019

So assessment day completed, Wow what an intense experience that was

Intial test was a group bourdon test and NO sign of the SCAAT test that I have been practising and have truly nailed it, getting up to 182 / 1 omission,

The dot test was really fast, and the shapes soon morphed into a huge blur.

Any ideas on a timeline for the application process from this point?

Thanks in advance

GG96LFC · 31 Jul 2019

andrew johnson said:
So assessment day completed, Wow what an intense experience that was

Intial test was a group bourdon test and NO sign of the SCAAT test that I have been practising and have truly nailed it, getting up to 182 / 1 omission,

The dot test was really fast, and the shapes soon morphed into a huge blur.

Any ideas on a timeline for the application process from this point?

Thanks in advance

Shouldn’t be too long, 2 days after my assessment day I got an email inviting me to an interview. This was last year though so it may take slightly longer this year

andrew johnson · 1 Aug 2019

GG96LFC said:
Shouldn’t be too long, 2 days after my assessment day I got an email inviting me to an interview. This was last year though so it may take slightly longer this year

I today received confirmation I had passed the assessment day, and that interview dates had not been confirmed yet!,

GG96LFC · 1 Aug 2019

andrew johnson said:
I today received confirmation I had passed the assessment day, and that interview dates had not been confirmed yet!,

Oh Ok, don’t worry about it too much though. You’ve passed the assessments which is the main thing, your assessment scores will last for 5 years from now

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