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Abellio Greater Anglia Class 755s (Regional Trains)

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Why would it have failed? It might also be due to driver availability for the 755, or just to do some finetuning for some things. Now is the time to do such things, as there is still a one on one spare available.

Bit worrying if it is down to driver availability after the first one run two days ago, mismanagement comes to mind if it is the case
 
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Wivenswold

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These are new bits of kit and they're now in the final testing stage, that is, carrying passengers on selected diagrams but with a lot of attention on performance and niggles.
So they will be taken out of service from time to time, it might not have actually failed. All perfectly normal and not proof of GA's or Stadler's incompetence. Just before the conversation heads that way.

I expect the Short Set will be active for several weeks to come.
 

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Having ridden 755410 on Monday, I am convinced that these are the best trains we have had for a long while. I think that instead of trying to pick holes in things we should be looking forward to the step up in quality that these will bring. I will be interested to see what they will do on the Cambridge's
 

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Having ridden 755410 on Monday, I am convinced that these are the best trains we have had for a long while. I think that instead of trying to pick holes in things we should be looking forward to the step up in quality that these will bring. I will be interested to see what they will do on the Cambridge's
For the rural routes they seem superb and are probably class-leading. People's reservations seem only really to be about the use of single doors which is mostly just going to be problematic on Stansted Express services.
 

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For the rural routes they seem superb and are probably class-leading. People's reservations seem only really to be about the use of single doors which is mostly just going to be problematic on Stansted Express services.

Agreed - most of us who had reservations about the rolling stock strategy of Abellio were not concerned about the rural units, my worry has always been about the other fleets. Stadler make a good product and with the capacity uplift, and much more modern train than what they are replacing, it was always going to be s signifcant improvement.
 

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That could well be an issue, I can see. It will be interesting for sure in the peak hours, as will be the IC sets on my route to London
 

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That could well be an issue, I can see. It will be interesting for sure in the peak hours, as will be the IC sets on my route to London
I think 12 sets of sliding doors will probably still beat 8/9 pairs of slam doors, partly because there is still more doorway for people to exit from and also it will eliminate the issues of slam door operation, so I'm not as concerned with them on those services but it depends if they ever run on busier services with more stops. There's probably too few of them for that to ever happen but peak time calls at the likes of Chelmsford, Witham etc. could have pretty sizeable dwell times that will need to be considered.
 

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I think 12 sets of sliding doors will probably still beat 8/9 pairs of slam doors, partly because there is still more doorway for people to exit from and also it will eliminate the issues of slam door operation, so I'm not as concerned with them on those services but it depends if they ever run on busier services with more stops. There's probably too few of them for that to ever happen but peak time calls at the likes of Chelmsford, Witham etc. could have pretty sizeable dwell times that will need to be considered.
The problem is that 12 pairs of sliding doors won't beat 24 pairs of sliding doors on WAML stations like Tottenham Hale.
 

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For the rural routes they seem superb and are probably class-leading. People's reservations seem only really to be about the use of single doors which is mostly just going to be problematic on Stansted Express services.
The single end doors on the 15x stock are a PITA, they take ages to get people off and are a nightmare if you have bulky luggage or a bicycle, a double door in the centre should be much quicker I would guess. I would imagine quicker opening on arrival as well as guard/conductor doesnt have to make way to one end to initiiate opening.

If the 755/4's are being trialled on the Lowestoft Branch, perhaps the rumour I was told on Sunday that Sudbury-Marks Tey would get the first 755/3's may also be true. Though staff training has not occurred due to lack of available 755 stock when the conductor/guards went for training is a sticking point.
 

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How were you measuring speed? Does GPS work inside the trains? The windows appear to have a metallic layer to repel sunlight - which usually weakens the GPS signal inside the train. Does the PIS display speed?

Only with my smartphone, nothing sophisticated. That said on the 3-4 occasions I measured the cut off was exactly at 60mph and this tallied with the engines shutting off. GPS in the train was mostly OK, the wi-fi was iffy and no no speed shown on the CIS.
 

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Flirt was back out again this evening on the 1735(?) Norwich to Gt Yarmouth. Slightly late off Norwich.
 
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So they are good then, as you’re using a double negative.

If anyone has back problems its better they stand all the way than sit down, and if they didnt have a bad back before boarding and sitting in them seats they will sure enough have a back problem when they get off
 

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Have the results of the destructive testing been published yet (reality, not CAD)? Or has that been among the issues swept under the carpets for a mandated July launch?
 

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Have the results of the destructive testing been published yet (reality, not CAD)? Or has that been among the issues swept under the carpets for a mandated July launch?
Why would they be published?
 

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Having ridden 755410 on Monday, I am convinced that these are the best trains we have had for a long while. I think that instead of trying to pick holes in things we should be looking forward to the step up in quality that these will bring. I will be interested to see what they will do on the Cambridge's

I remember when the 156's and 150's started, they were the best thing since sliced bread then, so give it a few years, and people will be saying we need new trains ! LOL
 

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Bearing in mind I am more than happy with seats on the 800/802 fleet the seats on the 745/755 will please most people but you will never please them all. Great units all round.
 

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If anyone has back problems its better they stand all the way than sit down, and if they didnt have a bad back before boarding and sitting in them seats they will sure enough have a back problem when they get off
Probably not. People with Musculoskeletal pain generally know how to sit properly and let the curvature of the seats support their spine. Modern, firmer seats are far better for back problems than older seats that you sink into. Slouch in modern seats and your coccyx will take the weight of your upper body and it will hurt you. You don't need loads of padding to be comfortable because nature gave you that padding, it's just a matter of using it, and the seat, correctly.

Though i do hear that the Desiro City seats are the exception to the rule. Ouch.
 

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Probably not. People with Musculoskeletal pain generally know how to sit properly and let the curvature of the seats support their spine. Modern, firmer seats are far better for back problems than older seats that you sink into. Slouch in modern seats and your coccyx will take the weight of your upper body and it will hurt you. You don't need loads of padding to be comfortable because nature gave you that padding, it's just a matter of using it, and the seat, correctly.

Though i do hear that the Desiro City seats are the exception to the rule. Ouch.
During my worse episodes of sciatica I did prefer firmer seats, Ashbournes in 321s were pretty bad for back pain, but there is a limit. Beyond a certain hardness they can start to be detrimental.
 

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During my worst episodes of sciatica I found standing up in the cafe bar of Eurostar all the way from Paris-London with the left leg up against the wall the only way to stand without crying. No seats would've done for me I'm afraid.
 

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During my worst episodes of sciatica I found standing up in the cafe bar of Eurostar all the way from Paris-London with the left leg up against the wall the only way to stand without crying. No seats would've done for me I'm afraid.
Ugh, been there. Fortunately never when I've had to travel anywhere by train.
 

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Its not just bad backs, these hard seats can create 'numb bum' and cramp in some of us. The seats in these 755s seem to look ok but maybe lack lumber support
 

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Its not just bad backs, these hard seats can create 'numb bum' and cramp in some of us. The seats in these 755s seem to look ok but maybe lack lumber support
The worst seats I ever came across were on the 319s. The seat back forces your legs forward thus causing your knees to clash with the person opposite.
 

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The worst seats I ever came across were on the 319s. The seat back forces your legs forward thus causing your knees to clash with the person opposite.
I agree, the Ashbourne seats as in the 319s, 321s and many sprinters are absolutely horrendous IMO. Even worse than the dreaded ironing boards.
 

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Listening to that video on a set of good headphones, the speakers sound like they're much more powerful than on most rail vehicles. Almost like what I'd expect if I played that audio through an actual HiFi.
amplifiers can be more powerful, speakers can be more sensitive :) the high pass filtering (if any) and how the speakers are acoustically loaded (the "enclosure" - infinite baffle carriage ceiling), and if it's a constant voltage system additionally the transformer quality and power output, are also factors that determine the sound heard, not just the speaker (drivers) themselves
 

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Some news regarding electric to diesel changeover from.Network Rail:
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New square shaped, blue bordered signs are being erected at the appropriate Stop Car Marker Boards for class 755 bimodes.
A white Class 755 on a blue band tops the sign. Half of the remainder is Power Changeover (separate lines) in black lettering divided by a blue band from the bottom segment. All the latter have the yellow exclamation triangle on the LHS. The Diesel to Electric sign exhibits Electric and 25kV on separate lines to the right. The opposite changeover is topped by DIESEL in red lettering with Lowestoft beneath and Felixstowe below that in the example shown.
Locations:
Ipswich Down Pfms 2-4
Stowmarket both platforms for the different changeovers
Norwich 1-6 Up
Presumably reminder signs to pan-up/down will be provided at Ipswich/Nowrich in the opposite directions.
 

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