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Imagine this lot against Starc and Cummins with the Dukes ball. Parp.
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I was at Lords today. That is exactly what we were imagining. It wasn't pleasant. I'm in therapy now.

Joking aside, it was a day at a test that I will never forget (for the wrong reasons). England were awful, they also seemed listless in the field, bowled too short and of course dropped catches. Ireland deserve all the praise heaped on them.

At least there was an excellent crowd which must have pleased the money-men.
 
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I do hope Jack Leach can get his century but, even if he doesn't, when was the last time an English slow left armer scored so many (currently 89 not out)? My memory goes back to 1956 and Tony Lock, but I can't remember better.
 
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Some usual(meant unusal) bowling figures this evening - for a T20
T Curran 2.0-0-3-3 (hat-trick)
Tahir 3.0-0-8-3
Batty 2.5-0-7-3
 
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England wrap up one of the strangest tests I can remember, skittling Ireland for 38. Nothing to worry about next week lads, nothing at all.
 
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Ireland demolished in their second innings: 38 all out. The lowest score at Lords

England win a bizarre test match by 143 runs. Only 1 Ireland player made double figures.
 
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Cletus said:
Some usual bowling figures this evening - for a T20
T Curran 2.0-0-3-3 (hat-trick)
Tahir 3.0-0-8-3
Batty 2.5-0-7-3
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All against Glamorgan, though ... they don't count!

(But I'll be at Sophia Gardens tonight to see if we can do any better!)
 
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Cricket defies logical explanation. Ever tried to explain the LBW law, or bad light to someone? Could be more of this in the Ashes with bowlers dominating.
 
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Cricket defies logical explanation. Ever tried to explain the LBW law, or bad light to someone? Could be more of this in the Ashes with bowlers dominating.
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Lbw is kinda straightforward, it's when the ball hits the batsman's leg, instead of hitting the wickets, but to count, the ball has to have a trajectory of hitting the wickets.
But if it hits the batsman's leg, but it wouldn't have hit the wickets then the batsman is still in.
 
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Lbw is kinda straightforward, it's when the ball hits the batsman's leg, instead of hitting the wickets, but to count, the ball has to have a trajectory of hitting the wickets.
But if it hits the batsman's leg, but it wouldn't have hit the wickets then the batsman is still in.
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Or still in the ball would have hit the stumps but the ball pitched outside leg stump, or outside off stump if the batsman is playing a shot.
 
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This is beginning to sound like one of those spoof tea towels that try to explain the laws. Meanwhile England comprehensively beaten at Chelmsford tonight by a Meg Lanning record T20 score of 133 not out. A great knock from some helpful bowling.
 
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cactustwirly said:
Lbw is kinda straightforward, it's when the ball hits the batsman's leg, instead of hitting the wickets, but to count, the ball has to have a trajectory of hitting the wickets.
But if it hits the batsman's leg, but it wouldn't have hit the wickets then the batsman is still in.
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Were it that simple. Where the ball pitches, whether the batsman plays a shot, whether the ball hits bat before leg, whether its a fair delivery... In reviews how much of the ball was likely to have hit the wicket tied to the initial umpire decision...
 
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Notice that "hybrid" pitches are being installed, mainly for the "Dumbdred" which are 95% real, 5% artificial. Expect, ten years down the line, most one-day cricket to be played on totally artificial turf.
 
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Notice that "hybrid" pitches are being installed, mainly for the "Dumbdred" which are 95% real, 5% artificial. Expect, ten years down the line, most one-day cricket to be played on totally artificial turf.
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Most football is played on "hybrid" pitches.....
 
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Most football is played on "hybrid" pitches.....
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Doesn't really matter for football, but if all the pitches are the same for cricket (at least at top level) is that what we want?? Be the end of the 4/5 day game if the wicket was the same at the end as the start.
 
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Doesn't really matter for football, but if all the pitches are the same for cricket (at least at top level) is that what we want?? Be the end of the 4/5 day game if the wicket was the same at the end as the start.
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That isn't what this is about. We arent talking astroturf here of the type you find in the park sometimes!
 
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Howardh said:
Notice that "hybrid" pitches are being installed, mainly for the "Dumbdred" which are 95% real, 5% artificial. Expect, ten years down the line, most one-day cricket to be played on totally artificial turf.
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Places like the G will still have drop in pitches.

Hell even the SCG is toying with the idea of drop ins.
 
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In 2001, I took a tour of the MCG.

Before we started the tour proper, the guide took us outside and showed us the area where they kept the drop in pitches at that time (he actually asked us what they were, but no-one knew!). He explained that whereas the MCG used to be a cricket ground where they played (a lot of) Aussie Rules Football, it was now an Aussie Rules Football ground where they played some cricket! The footballers used to complain that the bounce was different on the outfield and the square, and this affected their play ... so they dug up the square, re-laid it to be the same as the outfield and started to use the drop in wickets.
 
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In 2001, I took a tour of the MCG.

Before we started the tour proper, the guide took us outside and showed us the area where they kept the drop in pitches at that time (he actually asked us what they were, but no-one knew!). He explained that whereas the MCG used to be a cricket ground where they played (a lot of) Aussie Rules Football, it was now an Aussie Rules Football ground where they played some cricket! The footballers used to complain that the bounce was different on the outfield and the square, and this affected their play ... so they dug up the square, re-laid it to be the same as the outfield and started to use the drop in wickets.
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It's even less cricket these days. The Sheffield Shield games are now played at Junction Oval in St Kilda. It's basically international and BBL games these days. AFL runs the the show. The MCG and V/AFL weren't exactly the best of friends for a while but needed each other to exist.
In winter the pitches became mud with 44 blokes running all over it for 2 hours. That in turn affected it in summer.


VB have launched in time for The Ashes. VB flavored tea. So If you're up for cats wee flavored tea there you go!
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Wow … I only watched a few seconds of that, but the conditions look terrible!
 
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Any Ashes predictions, or even just the Edgbaston test? History is on England's side at Birmingham v Australia, certainly, particularly recent history. Possible that England's most prolific bowler against Ireland (Woakes) may get left out to join their most prolific batsman (Leach) on the sidelines. Good to know we can afford to leave them both out: rolls eyes.
 
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Any Ashes predictions, or even just the Edgbaston test? History is on England's side at Birmingham v Australia, certainly, particularly recent history. Possible that England's most prolific bowler against Ireland (Woakes) may get left out to join their most prolific batsman (Leach) on the sidelines. Good to know we can afford to leave them both out: rolls eyes.
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I'm hoping for the current wet weather to save us and a series of draws.
 
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Busaholic said:
Any Ashes predictions, or even just the Edgbaston test? History is on England's side at Birmingham v Australia, certainly, particularly recent history. Possible that England's most prolific bowler against Ireland (Woakes) may get left out to join their most prolific batsman (Leach) on the sidelines. Good to know we can afford to leave them both out: rolls eyes.
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Jofra Archer has not made the team but it appears that Woakes has been selected.
 
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What odds can I get on an England batting collapse? It's been quite a while since we have had 2 solid openers in the longest form of the game. Roy has never opened for Surrey in first class matches to the best of my knowledge so why are England putting him in as an opener? I am also not convinced Burns will make it as a long term opening option for England. As a Surrey supporter I do want him to do well but I can't see it happening unfortunately as he hasn't had any big scores so far in test cricket.

I know I am being pessimistic but I am simply being realistic.
 
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What odds can I get on an England batting collapse? Its been quite a while since we have had 2 solid openers in the longest form of the game. Roy has never opened for Surrey in first class matches to the best of my knowledge so why are England putting him in as an opener? I am also not convinced Burns will make it as a long term opening option for England. As a Surrey supporter I do want him to do well but I can't see it happening unfortunately as he hasn't had any big scores so far in test cricket.

I know I am being pessimistic but I am simply being realistic.
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Personally I think Roy is a good opening batsman, I think he proved this in the World Cup (yes I know that a test match is a different game to an ODI)
 
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