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Does this mean XC will be running 9-car HSTs? Where will they be running them?
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Does this mean XC will be running 9-car HSTs? Where will they be running them?
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221129
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Most likely 2x 2+8 although they might have the buffet vehicle removed yet.
They'll be run on the current route.
Hopefully they can make this s more permanent arrangement!
A quick glance at RTT with Variations to the ECS paths and this is what I have found for the bank holiday weekend. The bold indicates not a normal HST diagram.
Saturday
1V44 0611 Leeds to Plymouth / 1S51 1225 Plymouth to Glasgow Central
1V46 0645 York to Plymouth / 1S53 1326 Plymouth to Edinburgh
1V48 0745 York to Penzance / 1E75 1630 Penzance to Leeds
1V50 0606 Edinburgh to Plymouth / 1E63 1525 Plymouth to York
1V52 0601 Glasgow Central to Paignton / 1E67 1640 Paignton to Leeds
1V58 0900 Glasgow Central to Penzance / 2C80 2130 Penzance to Plymouth
Sunday
1V48 0810 Leeds to Plymouth / 1S55 1425 Plymouth to Edinburgh
1V50 0900 Leeds to Plymouth / 1E63 1523 Plymouth to York
1V52 0936 York to Plymouth / 1E67 1625 Plymouth to Leeds
1V56 0908 Edinburgh to Plymouth / 1E75 1825 Plymouth to Leeds
1V60 1105 Edinburgh to Plymouth
1S51 1225 Plymouth to Glasgow Central
Saturday
1V44 0611 Leeds to Plymouth / 1S51 1225 Plymouth to Glasgow Central
1V46 0645 York to Plymouth / 1S53 1326 Plymouth to Edinburgh
1V48 0745 York to Penzance / 1E75 1630 Penzance to Leeds
1V50 0606 Edinburgh to Plymouth / 1E63 1525 Plymouth to York
1V52 0601 Glasgow Central to Paignton / 1E67 1640 Paignton to Leeds
1V58 0900 Glasgow Central to Penzance / 2C80 2130 Penzance to Plymouth
Sunday
1V48 0810 Leeds to Plymouth / 1S55 1425 Plymouth to Edinburgh
1V50 0900 Leeds to Plymouth / 1E63 1523 Plymouth to York
1V52 0936 York to Plymouth / 1E67 1625 Plymouth to Leeds
1V56 0908 Edinburgh to Plymouth / 1E75 1825 Plymouth to Leeds
1V60 1105 Edinburgh to Plymouth
1S51 1225 Plymouth to Glasgow Central
221129
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Dont go off of RTT.
The 1425 from Plymouth appears to be going no further than Birmingham tomorrow?
Is anyone able to confirm the diagrams tomorrow? @221129 if you get any information it would be greatly appreciated
221129
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As Sufian says, there will be no HSTs in service tomorrow
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This might sound funny but the 06:45 from York to Plymouth is a 7-coach HST instead of an 8-coach Voyager. One coach less normally isn't great - actually in this case it is (more capacity than an 88-coach Voyager incase people aren't aware).
What's interesting is how come XC can spare an HST instead of the booked Voyager but not diagram the 06:45 and I guess its 13:25 from Plymouth to Edinburgh regularly on Mondays as well as Thursdays (13:25 being Thursdays)?
What's interesting is how come XC can spare an HST instead of the booked Voyager but not diagram the 06:45 and I guess its 13:25 from Plymouth to Edinburgh regularly on Mondays as well as Thursdays (13:25 being Thursdays)?
sufian123
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This is happening due to overtime ban yesterday. There were no hsts in services as a result. Diagrams should be back to normal after today.
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Notice on XC's website atm stating that the RMT are holding more strikes on the 25th August so I assume that XC won't be running any HSTs on that day and it possibly means that they are not going to hire in the 2 LNER HSTs...??
sufian123
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Correct. If strike goes ahead no hsts will operate
221129
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Extremely unlikely to have any HSTs out let alone hire ins. Unless the RMT can get XC to agree a deal... Again there are no strikes.
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so they wouldn't even hire them in for the Saturday either??
221129
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I'd suggest it is fairly unlikely.
Apedlar12
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Would have been nice, but obvs as it looks unlikely it is a shame...
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No strikes just not working overtime/rest days. Cross Country choose not to have Sunday within the working week.
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I have heard that they are now planning to hire the 2 sets in on the Saturday only but I am still not 100% sure if this is confirmed...
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221129
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Saturday only. 2 additional hired in sets.
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Any idea of the diagrams?
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1V50/1E63
1V46/1S53
1V46/1S53
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Thanks
Thanks
How you figure the services from them codes?
sprinterguy
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1V50 = 06:06 Edinburgh - Plymouth
1E63 = 15:25 Plymouth - York
1V46 = 06:45 York - Plymouth
1S53 = 13:26 Plymouth - Edinburgh
Can be internal or external sources. External sources can be websites such as Real Time Trains or Open Train Times but these can sometimes scramble the codes (normally freight trains). The link below shows all cross country services for Plymouth on Saturday which shows the code next to the relevant services and clicking on the code will show the stations and passing places for said services.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...4/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=XC
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Can anyone confirm the days that the 1V54 0632 Dundee to Plymouth runs at all and the days on which an HST is allocated?
I think the timetable shows it running Monday - Friday but the HST diagrams list for Cross Country says that it is an HST on Monday and Friday, with no mention on other days. Is this correct?
I think the timetable shows it running Monday - Friday but the HST diagrams list for Cross Country says that it is an HST on Monday and Friday, with no mention on other days. Is this correct?
221129
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1V54 runs every day. It is booked a HST Monday and Friday only.
Bodmin General
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Thank you 221129.
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