The Halton Curve service normally used the fast line so it can't be that. Perhaps it is down to the acceleration of the Pendolinos plus the Chester service having to stop? Good question.
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frodshamfella
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I am on the curve train now, can tell you from Runcorn to South Parkway it flew along. Just left South Parkway now and we are moving rapidly, im well impressed with this service. Oh trains busy too.
On Sunday they had a refreshment trolley on the train.
On Sunday they had a refreshment trolley on the train.
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I think it is two 150/2's today. Looks like 175109 is finally getting fixed. Ha ha.
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Is that the 175 that was dumped in a siding looking in a sorry state...?
Probably. One engine not working, loads of blown windows and dodgy doors.
frodshamfella
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Yes it was, although I'm not good on stock type, is the 175 the errr posher type !!?
krus_aragon
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Yeup. TfW's 150s and 158s have got doors on the front end, 175s don't.
anamyd
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yeah the 175s are TfW's newest "old" trains. the later units of the build scrape the 21st century!
frodshamfella
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Nice to know, I have been on one or two on the Curve service, found them pleasant .
frodshamfella
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just out of interest, how much does anyone think it would cost for a simple station to be built for Beechwood ? If I got enough in the building society I might donate £50 ! 
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The 175s are easily the best of the old ATW fleet. Since they're all being fully refurbished, I suspect there may be some truth in rumours that TfW will hang on to at least some of them as a back-up for the new fleet.
Y Ddraig Coch
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All understood, but mileage per minute is pretty crap whichever way you look at it.
I truly hate the stop start of merseyrail and their trains generally. So will continue to use the new service where possible , but to take longer than a 16 stop , stopper is pretty bad.
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Very impressed with the Merseyrail train I used on Thursday morning from Chester to Liverpool.
Prompt departure from Chester, dwell times at stations kept to an absolute minimum by a highly visible guard who was present throughout the journey. Tickets checked on board, accurate announcements and bang in time arrival at Lime Street.
Perhaps they have upped their game in response to the TfW Halton Curve Route?
A good advert for keeping guards on the train, not hiding in the rear cab.
Prompt departure from Chester, dwell times at stations kept to an absolute minimum by a highly visible guard who was present throughout the journey. Tickets checked on board, accurate announcements and bang in time arrival at Lime Street.
Perhaps they have upped their game in response to the TfW Halton Curve Route?
A good advert for keeping guards on the train, not hiding in the rear cab.
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the least potentially fire-y ones...?
Slightly off topic but believe a few weeks ago a car struck a bridge in Runcorn just prior to Runcorn station approaching from Halton curve end.
The bridge has been cordoned off for a few weeks but tonight the road is closed with lots of workers ready for last trains to pass through before starting work.
Does anyone know if the bridge will be repaired tonight?
The bridge has been cordoned off for a few weeks but tonight the road is closed with lots of workers ready for last trains to pass through before starting work.
Does anyone know if the bridge will be repaired tonight?
krus_aragon
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the least potentially fire-y ones...?
So they'll get rid of the more fire-y ones...?
<AlanSugar>You're Fired!</AlanSugar>
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one would hope that they'd keep the ones with the most firing engine cylinders but the least likely to go up in smoke
frodshamfella
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Im on a 175 now heading back to Frodsham at 13.36 ,train just pulled in a with the 13.20 arrival..completely packed and standing....not sure why so rammed. 2 carriage service.
frodshamfella
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Just boarded Halton Curve service at Frodsham, plenty boarding, this service appears to be growing in its popularity .
Llandudno
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Careful travelling home around tea time, TfW short of train crew - again!
FrodshamJnct
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Yeah the 1638, 1838, 2140 from Lime Street to Chester are cancelled, as are the 1532, 1730, 2030 from Chester to Lime Street.
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I was looking at the Merseyrail map today and a thought came to me. If Merseyrail trains do turn out to work on batteries, is there any merit in considering running some Elsemere Port/Chester services over the curve to Lime Street? You could then run future North Wales services express from Chester to Liverpool with a stop at Liverpool South Parkway and possibly Runcorn only. It feels like it could open up a host of new journey opportunities and would also plug the City Line onto the Merseyrail network proper.
frodshamfella
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Im on way back now....but there were 3 cancellations from Lime St...Scarborough , Euston on LNW and Manchester Airport ( flooding )
frodshamfella
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I think if they could get battery ops Ellesmere Port to Helsby would be a good start.
A bit OT but:
Yesterday's 10:52 Chester to Manchester Piccadilly was cancelled due to "driver sickness". Unfortunate, as I had just sat down on the train when the announcement was made.
A bit of a blessing in disguise though, as I was directed to the new(ish) 11:24 Chester to Leeds service. This proved to be a very good alternative, quicker with less calling points (3 vs 7). Meant getting off at Manchester Victoria though, which was no biggy for me.
Got the same service back to Chester (18:07 from Victoria).
Guard said there were new trains on order for this service.
Yesterday's 10:52 Chester to Manchester Piccadilly was cancelled due to "driver sickness". Unfortunate, as I had just sat down on the train when the announcement was made.
A bit of a blessing in disguise though, as I was directed to the new(ish) 11:24 Chester to Leeds service. This proved to be a very good alternative, quicker with less calling points (3 vs 7). Meant getting off at Manchester Victoria though, which was no biggy for me.
Got the same service back to Chester (18:07 from Victoria).
Guard said there were new trains on order for this service.
frodshamfella
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According to new timetable from May this year, its looks like the 0703 ( M-F from Chester to Liverpool via the curve originates in Shrewsbury. I don't believe this has happened before being Wrexham General the furthest this service has come from/to.
PHILIPE
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Just replaces a Shrewsbury to Chester service
Nice if it could be on good "long distance" rolling stock, the only problem with combining 2 services into 1 through working, is the unwanted risk of a distant problem cancelling a previously unaffected local service. possible late running from Shrewsbury resulting in a "turn back" at Chester etc. Still it is in line with the Welsh Goverment ideas to "open up" new connectivity to/from North Wales, some good old fashoned posters on the stations would be nice "Visit Shrewsbury with ATW" etc.
PHILIPE
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The TFW Halton Curves are now booked for 175s. Any trains can be late anywhere and react on other services
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