PHILIPE
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The short swing link bogie factor came into play when they worked the Weymouth Wizard so it is nothing to with Netley.
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GWR operating short 'HSTGTi' sets (see diagrams section for workings)
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The short swing link bogie factor came into play when they worked the Weymouth Wizard so it is nothing to with Netley.
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You definitely are wrong! Long swing link BT10s are barred from the whole of the Southern; that’s certainly what was in the Sectional Appendix last time I looked,
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No, you’re the wrong way round. It’s the short swing link bogies that are essential for the whole third rail network. It is power car gauging issues that prevent use on the Netley line. Mk 3 coaches would be clear with the right SSL bogies.
Reversing at Eastleigh, or more usually running via Chandlers Ford without a reversal, avoids the Netley line (St Denys to Fareham) completely.
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Anyone have pics of the 2 types of bogie? Short and long swing link?
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I have at home, but won’t be able to post them until later today or tomorrow.
Just to put this one to bed, HSTs have been used on Plymouth and Swansea or Cardiff FootEx, running via chandlers ford and Botley, this was in addition to the standard 1Fxx services. There is YouTube footage of them passing Cosham
Unless someone ones to pull 10’s of £m out of there backside to resolve the gauging issues (either Bitterne or Bursledon, no one is quite sure), then it’s not going to happen. I do agree the stock would be perfect but wouldn’t happen.
Unless someone ones to pull 10’s of £m out of there backside to resolve the gauging issues (either Bitterne or Bursledon, no one is quite sure), then it’s not going to happen. I do agree the stock would be perfect but wouldn’t happen.
PHILIPE
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There are only so many sets to be modified and workwise they are all accounted for so why bother to extend this costly modification project when it is unnecessary
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Try post no 9 in the Coffee Shop.
Thanks (Although I didn't originally request it) that's quite informative.
PHILIPE
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Another Diagram starting tomorrow (SX):-
5U02 03+50 St. Philips Marsh to Taunton
2U02 0512 Taunton to Cardiff Cen
2C67 0800 Cardiff Cen to Paignton
2A59 1146 Paignton to Newton Abbot
2T12 1218 Newton Abbot to Paignton
2U20 1253 Paignton to Cardiff Cen
2C85 1700 Cardiff Cen to Taunton
2M60 1917 Taunton to Bristol TM
5U02 03+50 St. Philips Marsh to Taunton
2U02 0512 Taunton to Cardiff Cen
2C67 0800 Cardiff Cen to Paignton
2A59 1146 Paignton to Newton Abbot
2T12 1218 Newton Abbot to Paignton
2U20 1253 Paignton to Cardiff Cen
2C85 1700 Cardiff Cen to Taunton
2M60 1917 Taunton to Bristol TM
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Today (Sunday 4th) I saw a short HST working 2T45 Worcester-Bristol. This isn't listed in the diagrams thread, so was this a replacement for an absent DMU?
PHILIPE
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Probably replacing a Turbo Diagram and the Sunday working to tie in with the above post.
Just like to add I travelled on Saturday from Bristol TM to Cardiff on an un-refurbished, but in good nick HST GTI.
It was blissful.
Also reminded me how comfy a Mk3 is compared to an IET.
Is it the plan for the Cardiff-Taunton services to be HST's in the future?
It was blissful.
Also reminded me how comfy a Mk3 is compared to an IET.
Is it the plan for the Cardiff-Taunton services to be HST's in the future?
PHILIPE
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One has been to Worcester today. See Post #1451
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They've also appeared at Ashchurch station, I noticed one today but can't say how long it's been there.
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The Sunday working to Worcester is a booked job as from today
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Ok, thanks
PHILIPE
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In the future ? Most of them have been for months now. It sounds as if you travelled on one yesterday
As in all the Cardiff-Taunton services, or just some of them?
PHILIPE
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Roughly 4/5 of them
You can find them listed here in the GWR Section:-
www.railforums.co.uk/threads/frequently-requested-diagrams.170615/
It will be updated within the next few days to encompass an increase
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Any news on the next set to be coming out of Wabtec? It's been nearly 2 months since the last one with only 5 done so far out of 11 with the first one released in March last year so only 5 delivered in 17 months.......
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I work near to the line which runs through Mexborough to Doncaster and often see trains going to and from Wabtec. Earlier today I saw a “classic” HST in First GWR livery going towards Doncaster and then later, I saw an HST going the other way.
I didn’t get a look at the livery of the second train, but I’ve only seen finished re-furbs going that way. Hope this helps.
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Those are the Hull Trains sets swapping over for maintenance.
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Really? I didn’t mention the token green GWR carriage in the middle of the first train, what kind of sheds are Hull trains running?
BTW Mexborough is between Sheffield and Doncaster, I wouldn’t expect trains to pass Doncaster to go to Sheffield and then go back past where I work. I’m quite new to this train spotting lark though.
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They are hiring HST sets from GWR, hence the odd green coach in the set.
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I see some weird and wonderful trains pass by, I just assumed that trains like that were going for re-furb. Still a strange route.
Went on a ‘Castle Class’ mini HST today with power doors, between Truro and St Erth and the interior ambience and comfort was far superior to the IET I had last week. The seats were so far superior in the HST it is ridiculous.
I did notice 2 points. The acceleration was nowhere near as marked as the IET, which you could actually feel pushing you back in the seat as it pulled away. Maybe the HST schedules do not require it?
Also, when stationary, there was a vibration that was visibly making the seats move. I was in the TGS. Would this be vibration picked from the adjacent power car?
I did notice 2 points. The acceleration was nowhere near as marked as the IET, which you could actually feel pushing you back in the seat as it pulled away. Maybe the HST schedules do not require it?
Also, when stationary, there was a vibration that was visibly making the seats move. I was in the TGS. Would this be vibration picked from the adjacent power car?
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Not really a strange route. The sets are still maintained by GWR in Bristol, so swapping them over means a long distance move from Hull to Bristol: Mexborough is on the most direct route.
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