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Companies That You Expect to Disappear Soon

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Reminds me rather of the French super/hypermarket chain Carrefour here decades ago: the assumption being that everyone would know what a superior store it was and instantly start using it. French arrogance!

First time I ever heard of them was when the Metro Centre opened.
Within a month I'd been in one in France, just outside Cherbourg, I was on a 10 day trip with school to Paris and the Loire Valley. Our teachers had got us so hyped about how great the hypermarket was (which I suspect was only because they'd be stocking up on cheap wine and beer), me, I was nearly 14 and not interested in supermarkets at all, I was hungry after not taking to the French food at all, and eating only the veg that came with the meals we were served, so I ended up buying a 6 pack of peanut Treets (m&m's had taken over and I'd not seen Treets for ages)
 
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I remember two Carrefour shops in the West Midlands, in Telford and on the outskirts of Sutton Coldfield. Very few retailers seemed to have much success when they moved into other countries.
 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49165896

A shame for the iconic shipbuilding firm

Harland and Wolff: Administrators expected on Monday
By John CampbellBBC News NI Economics & Business Editor
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The Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast is expected to be placed into administration later.

It puts 130 jobs at risk and could spell the end of the iconic business.

Its best known vessel is the Titanic, which was built at the yard between 1909 and 1911. At its height, Harland and Wolff employed more than 30,000 people.

The firm had been up for sale amid serious financial problems at its Norwegian owner.

"It seems increasingly unlikely that a solution will be found in the short term and the company may indeed have to go into administration," DUP MP Gavin Robinson told the BBC's Good Morning Ulster programme.

"We've pulled all the political levers that we can."

Unions want the shipyard to be nationalised, a call that has been backed by the Labour Party, but the government has said the crisis is "ultimately a commercial issue".

Mr Robinson said Harland and Wolff had asked the government for shortfall funding of £650,000, which would have given the company "breathing space" for the month of August "so that they could explore other options".

He added: "The official advice is that it cannot be done for three reasons: there is no order book at present so the money would be going in with no generation of product or profit; and there was no ability to secure the loans or pay them back; and it would also conflict with state aid rules."

Last Monday, workers said they had taken control of the site and established a rota to ensure their protest continued around the clock.

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Image captionThe HMS Eagle was launched by Princess Elizabeth in March 1946
The shipyard was founded in 1861 by Yorkshireman Edward Harland and a German, Gustav Wolff.

By the early 20th Century, it was the world's most prolific builder of ocean liners.

It was one of Northern Ireland's key industrial assets during World War Two, producing 140 warships, 123 merchant ships and more than 500 tanks.

Its workforce reached a peak in the post-war years when it employed about 35,000 people.

By the late 1950s, the yard was facing increased global competition and the impact of the rise of air travel.

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Image captionThe Canberra was built for P&O to sail between London and Sydney
The launch of the Canberra in 1960 marked the last cruise liner to be built in Belfast.

By the mid-1960s the business was in serious decline.

At one stage in 1966, the management went to the old Stormont government and pleaded for a subsidy because it did not have enough money to cover the next pay day.

That was the start of more than 30 years of subsidies, during which about £1bn of taxpayers' money was pumped into Harland and Wolff to keep it afloat.

The firm was nationalised in 1975 with the Northern Ireland Office minister, Stan Orme, describing the business as having "a sorry financial record".

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Image captionMuch of the shipyard's work in recent years has been in the construction of offshore wind turbines
By that stage it was still employing about 10,000 people.

It returned to private ownership in 1989 through a management-employee buyout, backed by the Norwegian industrialist Fred Olsen.

It increasingly focused on the oil and gas sectors, but struggled to compete against major shipbuilders in east Asia.

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Image captionThe Anvil Point beneath the Harland and Wolff cranes after it was built in 2003
The yard built its last ship in 2003 - a Ministry of Defence ferry called the Anvil Point.

Since then, it has worked on other areas of marine engineering such as oil rig refurbishment and offshore wind turbines.
 

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I have been to Belfast many times and to be honest I did not know that Harland and Wolff was still in business. I have been in the Harland and Wolff former head office before it was converted in to a hotel. It was somethink to stand in the No.1 and No. 2 Drawing Offices where the great ships were designed. Then on a later visit to visit the Titanic Experience.
 

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Mike Ashley at it again:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49241307

Mike Ashley has emerged as the winner in an auction to buy the UK fashion retailer Jack Wills for £12.7m.

Mr Ashley's company Sports Direct has bought Jack Wills out of administration after competing against Edinburgh Woollen Mill Group.

It will acquire 100 Jack Wills stores in the UK and Ireland and take on 1,700 staff as part of the deal.

It is the latest in a series of struggling companies that Mr Ashley has acquired, with mixed results.

Sports Direct recently admitted that it regretted rescuing House of Fraser a year ago after discovering problems that it described as "nothing short of terminal" - and that it will have to close more stores.

Commenting on Jack Wills, Sports Direct said: "We will look to work with the landlords to reduce the rents to keep as many stores trading as possible."

The company has 10 stores overseas and KPMG, which is the administrator to Jack Wills, is examining options for those assets.

Suzanne Harlow, chief executive of Jack Wills, said that while the company has worked on improving its financial performance: "The challenging trading environment led us to conclude that the company's long-term future would be best served as part of a larger group and Sports Direct will enable us to do this."

Jack Wills reported an operating loss of £14.2m for the year to 28 January 2018, the most recent results available.

The company will be housed in a new division at Sports Direct which will focus on buying and building fashion and sports brands.

It will report to Michael Murray, Sports Direct's head of elevation and Mr Ashley's future son-in-law who is engaged to the retail tycoon's daughter Anna.
 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49240921

The cause of much of struggling business' issues:

UK consumer spending falls to record low

July's hot weather failed to boost consumer spending in the UK which fell to a new low amid Brexit uncertainty and slow real wage growth.

Average retail sales over the year to July rose by 0.5% - a record low according to the British Retail Consortium and KPMG.

They said the "challenging retail environment" was taking its toll on both the High Street and online.

And grocery sales, which normally rise when the sun is out, were "lacklustre".

KPMG's UK head of retail, Paul Martin, said that while online shoppers had chosen to go online to update their wardrobes in the hot weather, online non-food sales grew by just 3.7% in July from 7.5% in the same month last year.

He added: "Another category which has historically benefitted from the good weather is grocery, but even here sales are lacklustre, which is a cause for concern."

'Languishing'
Helen Dickinson, the BRC's chief executive said a "combination of slow real wage growth and Brexit uncertainty has left consumer spending languishing".

Wage growth accelerated to 3.6% in the year to May, according to the Office for National Statistics. However, when adjusted for inflation, pay remains below the average recorded before the 2008 financial crisis.

Average pay in May this year was £468 a week when adjusted for inflation compared to the pre-recession peak of £473 a week in April 2008.

Ms Dickinson said: "The challenging retail environment is taking its toll on many High Street brands who must contend with rising import costs, a multitude of public policy costs and ever higher business rates."

Total sales in July rose by 0.3% after two months of falls.

Like-for-like retail sales in the UK also reversed two months of declines to grow by 0.1% compared to July last year.

Ms Dickinson said: "While retailers will welcome the return to growth, it has nonetheless been a punishing few months for the industry."
 

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Why would people be expected to buy more groceries when the weather is good? You might buy different ones, of course, but wouldn't they just replace other purchases - salad instead of soup? Are warm weather purchases generally more expensive?
 

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Why would people be expected to buy more groceries when the weather is good? You might buy different ones, of course, but wouldn't they just replace other purchases - salad instead of soup? Are warm weather purchases generally more expensive?

BBQ’s and Booze.
 

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Why would people be expected to buy more groceries when the weather is good? You might buy different ones, of course, but wouldn't they just replace other purchases - salad instead of soup? Are warm weather purchases generally more expensive?

Probably parties and barbecues where not only there'll be booze and more "fancy" food, there'll also be a bit of glutony and waste.
 

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Probably parties and barbecues where not only there'll be booze and more "fancy" food, there'll also be a bit of glutony and waste.

BBQ’s are also very meat-heavy which is more expensive than the usual British diet of some meat topped up with something cheap like veg/pasta/rice/salad etc.
 

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For some reason I don’t think being famous for building the Titanic sounds very positive.
Being famous is having your name known, recognised, and associated around the world, and this isn’t the case for H&W, not even on the British Isles.
It did amuse me that the BBC article which was linked to says:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49165896 said:
The move puts 120 jobs at risk and could spell the end of the iconic firm, best known for building the Titanic.
(My bold)
Maybe they went under through embarrassment? If I built the Titanic, I wouldn't want to be around for people to associate me with it!

-Peter
 

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Maybe they went under through embarrassment? If I built the Titanic, I wouldn't want to be around for people to associate me with it!
The people of Belfast often point out that Titanic was absolutely fine when she left Belfast!
 

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The design flaws weren’t the iceberg’s fault though.
 

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An interesting point, but the iceberg was the reason for the large hole in the ship being created...
And the hole was the reason the Titanic became a Ship That People Expected to Disappear Soon!

(There, almost back on topic...)
 

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Upthread re Carrefour - I've not heard the word "hypermarket" in years despite visiting them often.
 

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Upthread re Carrefour - I've not heard the word "hypermarket" in years despite visiting them often.
They’ve definitely got plenty branded as Carrefour Hypermarket in Belgium, not sure about France though.
 

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The design flaws weren’t the iceberg’s fault though.

Wasn't Titanic still rather ahead of its time in terms of "crashworthiness" ?

It's hard to imagine any of the other ships around at the time faring any better after being crashed into an iceburg !
 

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Wasn't Titanic still rather ahead of its time in terms of "crashworthiness" ?

It's hard to imagine any of the other ships around at the time faring any better after being crashed into an iceburg !
It was said to be unsinkable. But then it did sunk and all that.

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The ship still might have been more difficult to sink than others without the watertight compartments. Unfortunately, imagining that any ocean going vessel can be "unsinkable" would still be a flawed line of thought today.
Definitely.

-Peter
 

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Sad news for transport enthusiasts, but according to their website, the Ian Allan Birmingham book shop is to cease trading on 14 September 2019]

https://www.ianallanpublishing.com/

Afraid that their sole remaining shop (London Waterloo) is just too far away for me to visit. I hope that the shop staff manage to find new jobs.
 

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Sad news for transport enthusiasts, but according to their website, the Ian Allan Birmingham book shop is to cease trading on 14 September 2019]

https://www.ianallanpublishing.com/

Afraid that their sole remaining shop (London Waterloo) is just too far away for me to visit. I hope that the shop staff manage to find new jobs.
Sorry for seeming stupid, but does this mean that you will only be able to purchase these books from the Waterloo shop? No online?

-Peter
 

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Sorry for seeming stupid, but does this mean that you will only be able to purchase these books from the Waterloo shop? No online?

-Peter
According to their website, it looks like the on-line Ian Allan Direct no longer functions. The search for books option does not work on my browser.
 

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According to their website, it looks like the on-line Ian Allan Direct no longer functions. The search for books option does not work on my browser.
No!! It's a shame to lose one of the most prolific trainspotting book makers. And other books of course.


-Peter
 

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